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Old 01-06-2006, 05:07 PM
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Ive tried for days to find some people making BIG power with an ebay IC. Ive talked to soo many people and read though so many threads that im sick. Lets drop all the hear say and post some dyno #s of cars running the 4" xs power intercoolers. Some temp readings would be the most important thing of big power cars, so lets see them too.
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Im trying to see if their are drawbacks of this ic on a motor making ~1000rwhp. Im not the smartest, but, it seems that the way the endtanks are setup on the ebay ic is inefficient to say the least. Do the tanks, having the i/o both on the bottom, only allow half of the ic to work?Im thinking of maybe getting one and chopping off one end tank and flipping it around. Seems like it would utilise more of the core for cooling, no?

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Just read that "smokinhawk?" dynoed around 900+ with the xs power ic. Smokin- do you have any temp reading?Pressure loss?
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Didn't you read my post We are over 800hp with only 14lbs so far limited only by the fuel system right now.

Just finished a 96 Impala with a Vortech that litterally gained 100hp/100tq by just adding a OBX intercooler --no tune change except richening the A/F for the power.

How about the 4.8l truck we did that pushes 16lbs of boost so far(fuel limited again) .Going through 3 gears the intake temp started at 85 degree's and topped off at 105 degree's -- 0 -120mph.

Now,if your building a mostly drag car you want an air to water and run alot of ice.
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Originally Posted by NobodySpecial
Just read that "smokinhawk?" dynoed around 900+ with the xs power ic. Smokin- do you have any temp reading?Pressure loss?
you sure? where the thread link
i havent dynoed my car yet, still trying to finish it up, i got to finish fabbing the coolant lines then finish wiring up my car.

the two big power maker on the boards here with 4" obx are PurEvil (dynoed-built-tuned by the above Slowhawk) and KP who has ran 9.8's with a supercharged d1.

I did make a post though of how i cut and flipped the endtanks then rewelded them, hoping to pick up some cooling gain.

your not the first to kind of mess me and slowhawk up before
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Whoops, yea i fugged the name, sorry. I think im going to give one a try becuase of the success you had slowhawk Slow- you didnt even flip the endtanks did you, $250 out the door no modifications, 800rwhp+@14psi, sounds pretty impressive. You didnt happen to have any temp readings on the 800+ run did you?

How much of a cooling benefit do you guestimate if the tanks were cut and flipped?

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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
Didn't you read my post We are over 800hp with only 14lbs so far limited only by the fuel system right now.

Just finished a 96 Impala with a Vortech that litterally gained 100hp/100tq by just adding a OBX intercooler --no tune change except richening the A/F for the power.

How about the 4.8l truck we did that pushes 16lbs of boost so far(fuel limited again) .Going through 3 gears the intake temp started at 85 degree's and topped off at 105 degree's -- 0 -120mph.

Now,if your building a mostly drag car you want an air to water and run alot of ice.
I hooked Don up with all three of these I believe. He as well as others have great success with the OBX. I do think the 4" I sold him was a different brand though, which I can still get.
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This was in reference to the 3" version OBX type

Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
The OBX units are not meant for high performance apps. We had a customer of ours that had the same heat rising issues as well. The IC is not very well designed. A temp. solution is , flip one of the tanks over, that dropped the IC temps down about 25 degs.
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my brand i have is actually a xspower, which looks just like the obx
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What about pressure drop?
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im doing ok so far
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Are the XSpower and OBX the same thing? Purevl, which one do you have?
TRT-I talked to you yesterday on the phone about the 4" and trying to pass 1000rwhp mark on my car. Doing some research before I buy

TRT- the other core you sell, what makes it better?
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The ic purevl has is not obx. I get it elsewhere. This is the ic I talked to you about.
As you can see, it works well.
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Originally Posted by trtturbo
The ic purevl has is not obx. I get it elsewhere. This is the ic I talked to you about.
As you can see, it works well.
Seems to work good, still no temp readings yet. What is the main difference between the 2 though? If nothing, id rather save $100 and go with obx. Would the $375 for the other on your website still be valid if they flipped one of the endtanks over when making it? Or how much extra? PM me the price of one put together with the staggered endtanks, if you can also shoot me a price on the core and tanks, not welded. CandaceMCole@bellsouth.net or PM
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Havent dynoed, but trapspeed is 141mph, race weight 3480
2005 widh an OBx style 4" IC Iat went from 90 to 130 under a 10sec pass (90 in the air). 17psi from an F1 (LT1 383 ported TFS heads), PS Also inject little water/etanol widh an M5 nossel and it lower the IAT to around 110degrees over the finishline...

2004 widh twin "highflow" IC IAT was 104 to 173 (11.0sec) on a 90 day (383 LT1 ported stock heads 12psi from a P1sc)

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Originally Posted by lisa33
PS Also inject little water/etanol widh an M5 nossel and it lower the IAT to around 110degrees over the finishline...

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Already have an h20/alky/meoh injection kit. Ill probably use alky/water 90% of the time on the street.

Lisa is that off the shelf obx? No endtank chop and reverse?
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it a http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HUGE-...spagenameZWDVW Havent done anything to it...

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So many people have a hard time believing that this cheap intercooler does a very good job. I guess that old saying, "You get what you pay for" doesn't apply in this case.
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Originally Posted by trtturbo
The ic purevl has is not obx. I get it elsewhere. This is the ic I talked to you about.
As you can see, it works well.
yes it is...the other one you got don isnt
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
yes it is...the other one you got don isnt
PurEvl- I looked at the pic of your car on the second page of your dyno thread. That isnt a OBX on your car in the pic, maybe you switched them but that is the ETS one that TRT gets(says it on the side)
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Originally Posted by PurEvl
yes it is...the other one you got don isnt
It is an ETS on the car.

Now,I inspected it and I would say it's made at the same place as the OBX just marked with a different name
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Originally Posted by NobodySpecial
Ive tried for days to find some people making BIG power with an ebay IC. Ive talked to soo many people and read though so many threads that im sick. Lets drop all the hear say and post some dyno #s of cars running the 4" xs power intercoolers. Some temp readings would be the most important thing of big power cars, so lets see them too.
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dont have dyno #s yet but just finished a 2000 silverado put 3:73 posi, built a 4l65-e. engine is a 370 cube 6liter with diamond pistons eagle rods stock crank comp cam xr265hr-15, patriot stage 3 317 heads z06 intake 42lbs injectors . custom turbo kit using precision 67gtq trim 50mm tial bov ,60mm wastegate,3inch borla exuast and aeromotive fuel pump and regulator greddy boost controller. I BOUGHT A INTERCOOLER FROM EBAY XS POWER 24"BY 12" WITH 3" IN AND OUT AND WILL POST REAL #S IN A WEEK . I am towing it to w2w for tuning on wendsday and hoping for good #s bought this truck three weeks ago and have done all work since I wish it were this easy on my vettes!


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