Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally
02-25-2003, 11:47 AM
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Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally Here ya go, we have had problems with up loading the pics to the site, but here they are. <img src="http://www.lswon.com/upload/files/FB-Blue-1.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.lswon.com/upload/files/FB-Blue-2.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.lswon.com/upload/files/FB-Cleaned-Up.jpg" alt=" - " />
This is the new high flow version that has been standard on our TB's since early December. There are alot of happy customers out there with the new porting.
The top two are Navy Blue powdercoated but we have a large variety of colors available. I'll see if I can get some red pics up soon, that is by far the best looking color out there. The bottom pic is a TB that is just cleaned up on the outside and has the high flow porting on the intereior. We offer a burnish finish (think of the BG Deamon carb finish) for $10 more. Or you can go with the stealthy stock appearing look.
The flow modifications have gone into the radius of the TB mouth. The lip is rolled, and as you can see the epoxy is not just in the IAC and PCV area but speads out into the mouth of the TB. Care is taken to get the epoxy to stick there, but only the right process and epoxy can pull that off. We also have modifed the throttle shaft, and counter sink the plate bolts into the plate to achive less frontal area for the incoming air. Finally care is taken on the exit of the TB to achive a venturi through the throttle blade area.
Once the track opens up the SS will go back to see what kind of gains we get. Right now it's being tested in the winter of the north with great success. (yes the SS goes out in the bad stuff, I know bad me. Who else is going to test it?) Throttle response has imporved even more compared to the old porting and I think we can even see another .5-1mph gain the 1/4.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask. If you would like to order please feel free to drop me a line @ bret@bauer-racing.com
Thanks,
Bret
<small>[ February 25, 2003, 11:50 AM: Message edited by: SStrokerAce ]</small>
This is the new high flow version that has been standard on our TB's since early December. There are alot of happy customers out there with the new porting.
The top two are Navy Blue powdercoated but we have a large variety of colors available. I'll see if I can get some red pics up soon, that is by far the best looking color out there. The bottom pic is a TB that is just cleaned up on the outside and has the high flow porting on the intereior. We offer a burnish finish (think of the BG Deamon carb finish) for $10 more. Or you can go with the stealthy stock appearing look.
The flow modifications have gone into the radius of the TB mouth. The lip is rolled, and as you can see the epoxy is not just in the IAC and PCV area but speads out into the mouth of the TB. Care is taken to get the epoxy to stick there, but only the right process and epoxy can pull that off. We also have modifed the throttle shaft, and counter sink the plate bolts into the plate to achive less frontal area for the incoming air. Finally care is taken on the exit of the TB to achive a venturi through the throttle blade area.
Once the track opens up the SS will go back to see what kind of gains we get. Right now it's being tested in the winter of the north with great success. (yes the SS goes out in the bad stuff, I know bad me. Who else is going to test it?) Throttle response has imporved even more compared to the old porting and I think we can even see another .5-1mph gain the 1/4.
If you have any questions please feel free to ask. If you would like to order please feel free to drop me a line @ bret@bauer-racing.com
Thanks,
Bret
<small>[ February 25, 2003, 11:50 AM: Message edited by: SStrokerAce ]</small>
02-25-2003, 01:09 PM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally Looks like you have the inlet bored out more or it has a much better taper than stock? I like that, stock has a pronounced ridge there.
Does that IAC epoxy setup help cars idle better?
I'll have to send mine out, perhaps this Saturday Bret.
Does that IAC epoxy setup help cars idle better?
I'll have to send mine out, perhaps this Saturday Bret.
02-25-2003, 01:15 PM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by SStrokerAce:
<strong> That was fast, I didn't realize in 20 mins I would have 3 reponses to this.
Turn aorund is 5-10 days.
We can do a 2-3 days, but it's 50% more.
The powdercoated ones are $180 and the ported ones are $140 + shipping.
Drew, that could be your TB.
Bret </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much of a difference would this give me on my 434 CI MTI motor? Thanks
<strong> That was fast, I didn't realize in 20 mins I would have 3 reponses to this.
Turn aorund is 5-10 days.
We can do a 2-3 days, but it's 50% more.
The powdercoated ones are $180 and the ported ones are $140 + shipping.
Drew, that could be your TB.
Bret </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">How much of a difference would this give me on my 434 CI MTI motor? Thanks
02-25-2003, 01:58 PM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally yup well i should be getting my tb back from bret this week. i will also be taking my car to the dyno at the end of march. man those tb pictures are dope!
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02-25-2003, 06:37 PM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Pro Stock John:
<strong> Looks like you have the inlet bored out more or it has a much better taper than stock? I like that, stock has a pronounced ridge there.
Does that IAC epoxy setup help cars idle better? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I play with the radius/tapper alot more than stock. The ridge on the MAF side edge of the TB needed some work and just cutting it away was not helping in the way I thought it would, so the epoxy was the answer (let's see if anyone copycats that)
The extra epoxy doesn't effect the IAC in anyway. I still have the same sized holes in there.
Bret
<strong> Looks like you have the inlet bored out more or it has a much better taper than stock? I like that, stock has a pronounced ridge there.
Does that IAC epoxy setup help cars idle better? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I play with the radius/tapper alot more than stock. The ridge on the MAF side edge of the TB needed some work and just cutting it away was not helping in the way I thought it would, so the epoxy was the answer (let's see if anyone copycats that)
The extra epoxy doesn't effect the IAC in anyway. I still have the same sized holes in there.
Bret
02-25-2003, 06:44 PM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NastyC5:
<strong>How much of a difference would this give me on my 434 CI MTI motor? Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://www.lswon.com/upload/files/C5-Red-2.jpg" alt=" - " />
A C5 TB like above should help out the air demands of a big cube engine like yours alot.
If you are using a stock TB now, going to a higher flowing one should add 10hp, that would be my guess at the least.
Seeing the 1/4 mile gains that I see it equates to alot more than that (on less modified cars), but chassis dynos are not the be all end all and they don't have a extremly accurate repeatablity. Hell a Superflow engine dyno can get within 1% only if you do everything right.
Bret
<small>[ February 25, 2003, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: SStrokerAce ]</small>
<strong>How much of a difference would this give me on my 434 CI MTI motor? Thanks </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif"><img src="http://www.lswon.com/upload/files/C5-Red-2.jpg" alt=" - " />
A C5 TB like above should help out the air demands of a big cube engine like yours alot.
If you are using a stock TB now, going to a higher flowing one should add 10hp, that would be my guess at the least.
Seeing the 1/4 mile gains that I see it equates to alot more than that (on less modified cars), but chassis dynos are not the be all end all and they don't have a extremly accurate repeatablity. Hell a Superflow engine dyno can get within 1% only if you do everything right.
Bret
<small>[ February 25, 2003, 07:04 PM: Message edited by: SStrokerAce ]</small>
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2002z28:
<strong> yup well i should be getting my tb back from bret this week. i will also be taking my car to the dyno at the end of march. man those tb pictures are dope!
justin </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Justin,
You dynoing with the group at Speed Inc?
<strong> yup well i should be getting my tb back from bret this week. i will also be taking my car to the dyno at the end of march. man those tb pictures are dope!
justin </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Justin,
You dynoing with the group at Speed Inc?
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally I saw one of these in person last weekend, I have also some some of the competitors and right now it looks like your the man who is going to get my money, but my question is how much? and also whats the turn around if I send you mine? i can only go so long with out a car,
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally They look really good Bret, the one on the bottom looks like the one I have in my car. I like mine a lot! keep up the good work
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02-26-2003, 12:15 AM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally That was fast, I didn't realize in 20 mins I would have 3 reponses to this.
Turn aorund is 5-10 days.
We can do a 2-3 days, but it's 50% more.
The powdercoated ones are $180 and the ported ones are $140 + shipping.
Drew, that could be your TB.
Bret
Turn aorund is 5-10 days.
We can do a 2-3 days, but it's 50% more.
The powdercoated ones are $180 and the ported ones are $140 + shipping.
Drew, that could be your TB.
Bret
02-26-2003, 12:26 AM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally It might be..... i took some pictures of it and my old TB but the digital camera was about to take a dump so the quality is not very good. here are the links
Stock, and Bauer TB 1
Bauer, stock TB 2
wow that one you can tell how the epoxy compares to the stock holes.
Drew
Stock, and Bauer TB 1
Bauer, stock TB 2
wow that one you can tell how the epoxy compares to the stock holes.
Drew
02-26-2003, 03:19 AM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally I have one of Bret's "high flow" TB's sitting on my tool box waiting to be installed. The work is VERY high quality, I am positive his work will help push me to some sick #'s judging from the looks of it..
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally Hey Bret I will get with you soon about a ported tb. I finally got most of my mods done and I need a new TB. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> I like that NBM it would look good with my silver intake. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally I'm still waiting on my Bauer TB, as long as it looks like the one in the pic it should be worth the wait! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally Bret, I have one of the "old" styles from late September. Can you upgrade it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<img src="http://www.bauer-racing.com/throttlebodies/fbodyTB/Just%20Ported%" alt=" - " />
Les
<img src="http://www.bauer-racing.com/throttlebodies/fbodyTB/Just%20Ported%" alt=" - " />
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally I8COBRA,
i didnt get in on time for the gp at ls1speed. <img border="0" alt="[bomb]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> i go to a local shop in fort wayne called dynotech eng. one of the owners used to work for LPE. i was very pleased with their knowledge of the LS1.
justin
i didnt get in on time for the gp at ls1speed. <img border="0" alt="[bomb]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> i go to a local shop in fort wayne called dynotech eng. one of the owners used to work for LPE. i was very pleased with their knowledge of the LS1.
justin
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2002z28:
<strong> I8COBRA,
i didnt get in on time for the gp at ls1speed. <img border="0" alt="[bomb]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> i go to a local shop in fort wayne called dynotech eng. one of the owners used to work for LPE. i was very pleased with their knowledge of the LS1.
justin </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Its not too late. Visit mfba.org and go under events, there are plenty of spots left and you cant beat $60 for 2 pulls <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<strong> I8COBRA,
i didnt get in on time for the gp at ls1speed. <img border="0" alt="[bomb]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bomb.gif" /> i go to a local shop in fort wayne called dynotech eng. one of the owners used to work for LPE. i was very pleased with their knowledge of the LS1.
justin </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Its not too late. Visit mfba.org and go under events, there are plenty of spots left and you cant beat $60 for 2 pulls <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
02-26-2003, 09:35 AM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 02 SOM WS6:
<strong> Bret, I have one of the "old" styles from late September. Can you upgrade it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<img src="http://www.bauer-racing.com/throttlebodies/fbodyTB/Just%20Ported%202.jpg" alt=" - " />
Les </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Les,
We can upgrade for $30.
Bret
<strong> Bret, I have one of the "old" styles from late September. Can you upgrade it? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<img src="http://www.bauer-racing.com/throttlebodies/fbodyTB/Just%20Ported%202.jpg" alt=" - " />
Les </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Les,
We can upgrade for $30.
Bret
02-26-2003, 09:37 AM
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Re: Bauer High Flow TB pics!, Finally </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Diesel:
<strong> I'm still waiting on my Bauer TB, as long as it looks like the one in the pic it should be worth the wait! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dave, yours it out for delivery as I write this.
Bret
<strong> I'm still waiting on my Bauer TB, as long as it looks like the one in the pic it should be worth the wait! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Dave, yours it out for delivery as I write this.
Bret