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Old 06-15-2006, 09:14 AM
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I think I'm gonna be sick.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:29 AM
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damn man... replyed in the other thread.........
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I'm guessing that Andy supplied you with the block, while CAM did the build from cam/heads on up? In that case, yeah, it doesn't sound good.

But in Andy's note:
He actually mentioned in his email that he might be interested in moving up to a 402. No problem. My fault or not, I'll give him FULL credit towards the 402.
The only thing in question is the installation labor.
That sounds like it's worth a straight-up discussion with Andy regarding where you're going from here. But he's not going to do anything for you if you don't ask.

Sorry to hear of the extent of the damage.
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Damn bro, I am stunned. I cant imagine what you're going through =(
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I would say A&A is stepping up to the plate, BIG TIME! Tuffs motor had less than 300 miles on it!!!!!!!! NO FREE PARTS OR LABOR! I think he's getting a "discount on labor"?? R&R is all on him AND shipping. He's so disappointed I don't think he's going to use them for the rebuild. In this business you are getting taken care of, IMO.

I've never used them, but I will think twice the next time I order another motor. I'm on my 6th.
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No, re-read what I posted. It's looking like it's all on me. Andy had said what he did in a previous post a month ago. Things are different now.

Thanks for looking guys.

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Originally Posted by Frost
No, re-read what I posted. It's looking like it's all on me. Andy had said what he did in a previous post a month ago. Things are different now.

Thanks for looking guys.

What changed? What was found wrong?
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that sucks man, real tough situation.

I would store the car somewhere till you cool off/recover and are in a better position to dip back into it.
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This bitch'll get finished before the end of summer if I have to sell an organ or crack or something...

Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by Frost
This bitch'll get finished before the end of summer if I have to sell an organ or crack or something...

Thanks guys.
That's what I'm talkin' about!

So where did the lifters/cam come from? Did you reuse the stock lifters or buy new ones yourself that you then gave to CAM to install?
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Yeah.... it's all in the post that I linked. Brand new everything, Comp OEMs, not the Rs and the cam was a Cam Motion custom grind. Andy and I settled on a nice custom turbo cam for me upfront, but he ended up sending me one of his off-the-shelf blower cams instead and it had to go
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Well, what I mean is did you buy the lifters/cam yourself from a 3rd party, or did CAM get them for you?
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so are they saying it was CAM's fault?
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Andy says lifters/cam failure, can't tell which was first.... I say that the engine never had great oil pressure from the very beginning.... strted high and fell off quickly as the engine warmed up.

I bought the Cam Motion cam and comp OEs after I found out that there was a 224/228 114 off the shelf comp with the shortblock.
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sorry to hear..that sucks hope everything works out for you
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Cam Motion + Lifters has not been a good combination lately. Until you get some more info it will be hard to determine what caused what though.

I hope everything works out for you, I have been watching your build for a while now and I know this **** has to be wearing on you.

Good luck,
Kevin
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Gotcha. I feel your pain, man. I had a similar experience w/ a shop that did some major work to my '87 Formula 350. The motor went kaplut 5 minutes after I picked it up, and their story was "it ain't my fault." The problem is once all that junk gets in the motor it's hard to say what caused what to happen first. Good luck man, hope someone steps up to the plate, whether it be A&A, CAM, or whomever you purchased the cam/lifters from, to make this right.



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