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Old 06-28-2006, 04:37 PM
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Default Did I miss the memo on dart heads?

I guess I am the only person around that didnt know you had to grind the alignment tabs off the bottom of the rocker plates. The damn plates are so soft I couldnt even tell they cracked when I put the rockers back on. Two corvette installs, 2 sets of broken rocker plates. Anyone else have this happen to them?

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Maybe this is the memo?
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I found this out and posted back in late December/early January. You are better off just snapping them off actually from what I found. I also went with a better solution, Crane rockers.
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Yes you missed it.

Originally Posted by Dart331Stroker
We have made a change in this jsut recently, so item machined after 4-10-06 will have date codes stamped on them, and we moved the machining .100 towards the centerline of the valve cover boss, this should help out with Crane fitment. It will also allow Jesel, T&D, and Comp shaft systems to fit.

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I should have caught it, but they should have sent some basic doc. with it stating the fact.
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There is a tech sheet thats supposed to come with these heads.

If you want I can send it to you.

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Originally Posted by molson
There is a tech sheet thats supposed to come with these heads.

If you want I can send it to you.

Didnt get one............oh well, whats done is done.
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I got some data sheets with my 225's but nothing on grinding off the locator tabs. The build date on my head castings were 5-23-06. I had to remove the inner box sleeve to find the sheets. They do mention to only use comp cams guide plates.
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Dart was going to mill another 0.100" off of the rocker bosses to accomodate other rocker setups, wonder if your heads were made before or after that change? Can't remember when Dart stated that change would be implemented.
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4-10-06 is when we started machining the extra .100 towards the centerline fo the valve cover bolt hole centerline. As for the sheet saying use Comp Cams guide plates, sounds like the wrong sheets were in the box. I will check with our shipping and receiving department as to why this would occur. We cast the boss larger so the tabs need to be removed to allow the bar to sit flat. The reason for the larger tab is simple, Jesel and T & D offer systems that use larger fasteners and when you open up the stock heads for the larger fasteners with big spring pressures it breaks the bosses off, so we increase the bolt pads size. Unfortunately this has caused some issues with guys using the stock rocker bar, simple fix, but I know it would be nice to not have to do it.. I will check on the sheets and make sure it gets corrected.

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https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-internal-engine/527591-dart-gm-rocker-stand-clearance-issue.html
This came up a week or 2 ago!
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Originally Posted by Brian Tooley
I try to stay up to date on head issues on here and I haven't heard anyone talk about this. I AM BOLTING ON A SET OF THESE ON A BUDDYS ENGINE and the heads DO NOT have the slots machined in the head to clear the locators on the stock GM rocker stands. If anyone from Dart is listening or cares, please machine the slots in your heads, I'm thinking about 10 seconds of CNC time would save cutomers some aggravation. Thanks.
These Dart heads must be pretty good performers or Brian wouldn't be bolting them on a buddies car. Brian Tooley is/was a big wheel @TEA

How well did they perform Brian?

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Well maybe I should read EVERY post before installing each part, maybe I should have the since to realize the tabs dont clear the bosses, or maybe the heads come with a document that clearly defines the issue. Both sets were purchased within the last 30 days FWIW, and in sealed dart boxes.

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