Firebird n00b question...is this a "rare" car?
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Firebird n00b question...is this a "rare" car?
After extensive searching on ls1tech.com I'm leaning towards NO.
My wife's uncle is looking to sell his '99 mystic teal T/A. I always thought it was a WS6 AND an M6 until I went to take some pics of it today...I was wrong! He purchased the car brand new and I remember he said he paid almost $5k extra for the ramair hood and different exhaust at the dealership. Since I know nothing about Pontiac's, I was under the impression that all firebirds with ramair hoods were WS6's. After searching here, I've learned that it MUST say WS6 on the RPO sticker. Again, this car has a dealer/factory (not sure who installed it) installed ramair hood and exhaust system. But the RPO sticker only has WS9 on it. So basically, it's just a T/A that was ordered with a ramair hood and different exhaust...this doesn't make it "rare" does it? I put "rare" in quotations because it seems people like to use this term loosely. I have a bright green metallic Z but I don't consider it rare by any means.
Given this information, I wouldn't think that this car would command a higher price in the marketplace as a special optioned or "rare" car. Correct assumption? What do you all think?
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My wife's uncle is looking to sell his '99 mystic teal T/A. I always thought it was a WS6 AND an M6 until I went to take some pics of it today...I was wrong! He purchased the car brand new and I remember he said he paid almost $5k extra for the ramair hood and different exhaust at the dealership. Since I know nothing about Pontiac's, I was under the impression that all firebirds with ramair hoods were WS6's. After searching here, I've learned that it MUST say WS6 on the RPO sticker. Again, this car has a dealer/factory (not sure who installed it) installed ramair hood and exhaust system. But the RPO sticker only has WS9 on it. So basically, it's just a T/A that was ordered with a ramair hood and different exhaust...this doesn't make it "rare" does it? I put "rare" in quotations because it seems people like to use this term loosely. I have a bright green metallic Z but I don't consider it rare by any means.
Given this information, I wouldn't think that this car would command a higher price in the marketplace as a special optioned or "rare" car. Correct assumption? What do you all think?
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Originally Posted by waveoff
So basically, it's just a T/A that was ordered with a ramair hood and different exhaust...this doesn't make it "rare" does it?
The fit and finish of the hood looks really good, so it could be an actual GM hood that was indeed added by the dealership or a previous owner (if your wife's uncle bought it used). It certainly didn't come from the factory that way. Sorry
Also, the exhaust tips aren't a factory item either. That's also been added after it left St. Therese.
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He purchased the car brand new. I remember seeing the ramair hood on it the day he brought it home from the dealership but the exhaust I can't remember. So I guess the dealership probably installed the hood. A GM hood will have rivets by the nostrils right? The exhaust, I guess he may have purchased that seperately and maybe had the dealership install it for him? I'll have to query him before I put an ad up on here.
Thanks for your insight. I want to make sure all of my info is correct before placing an ad for the car on here. I don't want to be accused of misleading people.
Thanks for your insight. I want to make sure all of my info is correct before placing an ad for the car on here. I don't want to be accused of misleading people.
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I wouldn't advertise it as 'rare'. So it's a T/A with an added Ram Air hood & aftermarket exhaust that were both installed when purchased. No big deal. Go buy a new car, the dealership will be glad to add all kinds of accessories for ya!
The color is Blue-Green-Chameleon, or BGC for short, ..., nice color. Some hate it, some like it. Not 'rare' either. No, it shouldn't warrant any special pricing or command any extra.
Good Luck. Sharp car.
The color is Blue-Green-Chameleon, or BGC for short, ..., nice color. Some hate it, some like it. Not 'rare' either. No, it shouldn't warrant any special pricing or command any extra.
Good Luck. Sharp car.
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Originally Posted by PontiacFan
I wouldn't advertise it as 'rare'. So it's a T/A with an added Ram Air hood & aftermarket exhaust that were both installed when purchased. No big deal. Go buy a new car, the dealership will be glad to add all kinds of accessories for ya!
The color is Blue-Green-Chameleon, or BGC for short, ..., nice color. Some hate it, some like it. Not 'rare' either. No, it shouldn't warrant any special pricing or command any extra.
Good Luck. Sharp car.
The color is Blue-Green-Chameleon, or BGC for short, ..., nice color. Some hate it, some like it. Not 'rare' either. No, it shouldn't warrant any special pricing or command any extra.
Good Luck. Sharp car.
Oh, and to answer KyleLs1, it has the 16" ABS wheels.
Thanks to everyone so far for the info!
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It's definitely not a real WS6, they did not make WS6s in that color. Someone put the hood on it obviously.
And the color is not called "Mystic Teal", it's "Blue-Green Chameleon". Mystic Teal is actually a slightly lighter shade. There are guys in our club with MTM cars, and BGC cars, and they appear to be slightly different colors.
And the color is not called "Mystic Teal", it's "Blue-Green Chameleon". Mystic Teal is actually a slightly lighter shade. There are guys in our club with MTM cars, and BGC cars, and they appear to be slightly different colors.
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
It's definitely not a real WS6, they did not make WS6s in that color. Someone put the hood on it obviously.
And the color is not called "Mystic Teal", it's "Blue-Green Chameleon". Mystic Teal is actually a slightly lighter shade. There are guys in our club with MTM cars, and BGC cars, and they appear to be slightly different colors.
And the color is not called "Mystic Teal", it's "Blue-Green Chameleon". Mystic Teal is actually a slightly lighter shade. There are guys in our club with MTM cars, and BGC cars, and they appear to be slightly different colors.
If MTM and BGC are the same paint code but appear to have different shades, then how does one know what color to get if they had to paint a part of their car? Is there a 79U that's "chevy spec" and a 79U that's "pontiac spec"? I always thought that a paint code was a paint code was a paint code? This MTM camaro looks to be about the same shade as the T/A pics I posted. But then there's this one that definitely looks lighter...almost looks like it's BGM.
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Originally Posted by waveoff
I know it's not a WS6 because of the RPO codes but about the color...
If MTM and BGC are the same paint code but appear to have different shades, then how does one know what color to get if they had to paint a part of their car? Is there a 79U that's "chevy spec" and a 79U that's "pontiac spec"? I always thought that a paint code was a paint code was a paint code? This MTM camaro looks to be about the same shade as the T/A pics I posted. But then there's this one that definitely looks lighter...almost looks like it's BGM.
If MTM and BGC are the same paint code but appear to have different shades, then how does one know what color to get if they had to paint a part of their car? Is there a 79U that's "chevy spec" and a 79U that's "pontiac spec"? I always thought that a paint code was a paint code was a paint code? This MTM camaro looks to be about the same shade as the T/A pics I posted. But then there's this one that definitely looks lighter...almost looks like it's BGM.
I also know that the paint code for my car is 88U (Bright Purple Metallic).. on a Corvette 88U was Spiral Grey Metallic, and now for 2007 it's Atomic Orange Metallic. Not even remotely the same color.