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Old 10-23-2006, 04:14 PM
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I took out two LS1's today, and.. what else can I say, I was expecting alot more. With the amount people talk the LS1's up. I tested an auto stocker ws6 t/a (with 46,000 for $17k) and a "400 hp" cammed, full exhaust no cat camaro SS, with 65,000 miles for $18k. The auto was slllooow. Very disappointing. Then I took out the camaro, it was louder than it was fast. It was quick though, but for the upgrades, I'd expect more. Alot more.. Am I wrong or was it just this dealer has shitty cars?!

But I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going sell my LT1 now!
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Dont the newer 4th gens weight more? So 400hp isn't 400hp as it would be in our earlier 4th gens.
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i like these post that make me feel more hopefull about my LT1
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Originally Posted by Formula350
Dont the newer 4th gens weight more? So 400hp isn't 400hp as it would be in our earlier 4th gens.
400hp in a cobalt would be like 800hp?

Them LS1s are trash...good call on stickin with the lt.
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I like my LT1, but an LS1 is 50 hp ahead stock and mod-for-mod. Sorry.
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My buddies lt1 cant hang with my LS1. Same mods, so how are the LS1's trash again?
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Originally Posted by texinteg
My buddies lt1 cant hang with my LS1. Same mods, so how are the LS1's trash again?

because you spent 10k more for your same speed same car stupidity!!!
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wow it sounds like some one is just jealous. I only spent $12.5k on my 00 TA with 40k on the clock. I dont think I over paid but maybe I did. Just cause they are generally more expensive doesnt make them trash. I think the LS series of engines have alot more potential then the lt1's I am not knoking the lt1 cause I am looking to buy one actually, but I think the LS1 is a superior motor. As for calling me stupid why dont you go cry in your room for not being able to afford an LS1.
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Both LTx & LSx are nice cars to start with and have the potential to become great cars. As for the two that were tested out, maybe just crappy mods or bad tunes or something. A buddy of mine did an exhaust, air lid, and cam mod on his LS1 and I watched it dyno at 398hp (without a tune). I got to drive it and it was a blast. What kind of expectations did you have to begin with???
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LSx engines are better, period.

If i had and LSx in my garage that i got for free, id swap it in my LT1 right now.

We all rag on LS1s because we have LT1s, but if you really want to be an underdog go buy a mustang GT.

Tony.
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Originally Posted by Speed Density
LSx engines are better, period.

If i had and LSx in my garage that i got for free, id swap it in my LT1 right now.

We all rag on LS1s because we have LT1s, but if you really want to be an underdog go buy a mustang GT.

Tony.

Thank you. I like what you had to say. Also that comming from a guy that has a bad *** Lt1 means alot.
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Had both, and the LT1 FELT a lot faster because of the great low end... that's not to say the LS1 is a slug down low. It feels that way because the top end is a good bit better than the LT1. I'm talking about two cars with nearly identical mods (intake, LTs, exhaust, tuning, Shifter...). I love 'em both and can't wait to buildup another LT1 later on after school

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Originally Posted by hyperzone
Both LTx & LSx are nice cars to start with. . .
Hmmm. . . that may be a stretch. F-body = great engine + good suspension + shitty car + shitty transmission + shitty rear axle
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ls1 aren't trash neither is lt1's....if you have a lt1 most people are going to rag on the ls1 and the same if you own a ls1....lsx's are great great hands down but better, thats all up to what your definition of better is
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Originally Posted by engineermike
Hmmm. . . that may be a stretch. F-body = great engine + good suspension + shitty car + shitty transmission + shitty rear axle


Huh? you mean Great engine + good (street suspension) + Highly crash rated for a sports car (if i remember correctly it's been a few years) + great (street trans) + good (street rear axle)


remember these cars were made to be STREET cars not 8 second 1/4 mile or ralley cars
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Originally Posted by texinteg
Thank you. I like what you had to say. Also that comming from a guy that has a bad *** Lt1 means alot.
Density is a punk.

In a thread sometime ago, he used a picture of me from SSU and used it on here to try bash me. I reported him and it took a mod to take the pic away.
It wasn't even arguing anymore, he took it to a level so low I didn't even know how to respond.

I dont care what he's done to his car, the guy/kid is a punk.
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And...in my opinion I want both LT1 and LS1 (both formula's) I am not a big fan of the T/A's or the Z's...personal preference.... I love both of them.... it's called technology either make it better or get left behind.... example 6 bolt main to 2 bolt main, better head flow, aluminum opposed to cast iron...... yada yada yada

whoever has more money no matter what car/engine you have it will be faster then the other's
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aw **** here we go again with the lsx ltx thing
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Originally Posted by burnzilla
Density is a punk.

In a thread sometime ago, he used a picture of me from SSU and used it on here to try bash me. I reported him and it took a mod to take the pic away.
It wasn't even arguing anymore, he took it to a level so low I didn't even know how to respond.

I dont care what he's done to his car, the guy/kid is a punk.

Huh,

Didnt even know ya did that.

Little embarassed of the pic? Or because i called you out?

Doesnt matter what you have to say, im a punk.

Tony.
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I would'nt mind having an LS1. I'd try go get it as new as possible. 02 WS6 cars are mean looking. Of couse your gonna spend more money on a new car.


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