Terminator heads exhaust flow numbers
10-24-2006, 08:08 PM
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Terminator heads exhaust flow numbers I haven't seen anything regarding how these new heads flow on the exhaust side. I'm assuming they're pretty strong, but how do they compare with the AFR 205's? Also, has anyone built a 347 similar to Patrick's car with an ultra high lift but small duration cam and 11+:1 compression using the Terminators? I'd be curious if you can crack the 500rwhp barrier with a streetable setup.
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10-29-2006, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro99SS
Also, has anyone built a 347 similar to Patrick's car with an ultra high lift but small duration cam and 11+:1 compression using the Terminators? I'd be curious if you can crack the 500rwhp barrier with a streetable setup.
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10-31-2006, 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSix
I'm curious about this as well. Could make for a fun time in a 3.91 geared GTO... I was thinking the Terminator heads, a ported FAST 78, and Patrick's cam.
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11-01-2006, 07:17 AM
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does patrick have the 205 heads still or 225s ? either way it is very hard to beat the afr heads in pure power out of a streetable 346.maybe use an xer lobe in the mid 23x range say around a 233/237 or whatever lobe and around 9.0 dcr with every bolton you can think of through a 10 bolt might eclipse 500 rw but to clear 500 it takes a very healthy combo that very few has done.
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Originally Posted by Nate_Taufer
I wouldn't even bother with the 78mm intake. Go straight for the 90/90 stuff.
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I just bought the same cam Patrick G has and have the Terminator heads. My compressions should be 11.1.1 with 40K gaskets. I have a M6 02 Camaro with every bolt on FAST 90/90, EWP, UDP, Timing Chain upgrade, Full exhaust, All BMR car, 12 bolt Strange with 4.11 gears. I am probably missing a lot.
I will post my dyno's when I get them this month.
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I will post my dyno's when I get them this month.
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Originally Posted by camaross2002
I just bought the same cam Patrick G has and have the Terminator heads. My compressions should be 11.1.1 with 40K gaskets. I have a M6 02 Camaro with every bolt on FAST 90/90, EWP, UDP, Timing Chain upgrade, Full exhaust, All BMR car, 12 bolt Strange with 4.11 gears. I am probably missing a lot.
I will post my dyno's when I get them this month.
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I will post my dyno's when I get them this month.
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Can't wait to see your results. Is your FAST ported?
11-01-2006, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by camaross2002
My compressions should be 11.1.1 with 40K gaskets.
I'm very curious how your combo turns out.
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I hear good things about his heads. I'm sure the intake will turn out OK 
11-04-2006, 09:13 AM
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You ordered them without seeing exhaust flow numbers?
And even when John at TSP told me over the phone that on TRMN8R's car they did tons of work to the heads to get them to fit that setup and put down what it did. He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more. I hope you get good results, because if they're as good as they could be, I'll be ordering a pair. I just don't have the ***** you do to order an unproven set of heads. Heck where's all the results from all the guys who have ordered them already? I'd love to see them so I'll know to start saving.
And even when John at TSP told me over the phone that on TRMN8R's car they did tons of work to the heads to get them to fit that setup and put down what it did. He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more. I hope you get good results, because if they're as good as they could be, I'll be ordering a pair. I just don't have the ***** you do to order an unproven set of heads. Heck where's all the results from all the guys who have ordered them already? I'd love to see them so I'll know to start saving.
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Originally Posted by N4cer
He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more.
Either way, if this is true someone from TSP should post the flow numbers assuming they were flow tested.
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11-04-2006, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
You ordered them without seeing exhaust flow numbers?
And even when John at TSP told me over the phone that on TRMN8R's car they did tons of work to the heads to get them to fit that setup and put down what it did. He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more. I hope you get good results, because if they're as good as they could be, I'll be ordering a pair. I just don't have the ***** you do to order an unproven set of heads. Heck where's all the results from all the guys who have ordered them already? I'd love to see them so I'll know to start saving.
And even when John at TSP told me over the phone that on TRMN8R's car they did tons of work to the heads to get them to fit that setup and put down what it did. He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more. I hope you get good results, because if they're as good as they could be, I'll be ordering a pair. I just don't have the ***** you do to order an unproven set of heads. Heck where's all the results from all the guys who have ordered them already? I'd love to see them so I'll know to start saving.
I would really love to see one of the guys at TSP get on here and shut your mouth down.
11-04-2006, 07:31 PM
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Dude, I'm not bashing them. What's your deal? I stated a fact. What's the problem with that? Let 'em step up and tell. There's a problem either way. One problem would be that one of their employees is spreading false information by telling me that they were worked over. The other problem would be that they failed to mention that part of working them over in the thread. Either way, you can drop the attitude since I only passed on the info he told me on the phone. It's a fact. If you don't like facts, I don't know what to tell you. All I know is I get sick of hearing people attack me for telling FACTS on here. How nice. I appreciate that you support TSP. Heck I have ordered from them before and probably will again. But that doesn't mean that I did anything wrong by stating the truth.
Let's say someone gets on here and says the heads were normal. Okay, then John who answered the phone lied to me when I called to order them and needs someone there to deal with him. I was calling with money to order them, and he shut it down.
If they say no, John was telling the truth, then what's the deal with not letting us know? Heck, I'll start a thread about it to get to the bottom of it. But I just pray that instead of someone saying that I'm lying, they man up and tell us what the deal is.
You see, I'm not bashing them. Heck, just 2 days ago I had a guy with TSP heads and an MS3 tell me to my face that he loves the parts. And if you re-read the post, I'm saying I would buy them if I see real results. So exactly what's your problem with my post? It was only the truth.
Let's say someone gets on here and says the heads were normal. Okay, then John who answered the phone lied to me when I called to order them and needs someone there to deal with him. I was calling with money to order them, and he shut it down.
If they say no, John was telling the truth, then what's the deal with not letting us know? Heck, I'll start a thread about it to get to the bottom of it. But I just pray that instead of someone saying that I'm lying, they man up and tell us what the deal is.
You see, I'm not bashing them. Heck, just 2 days ago I had a guy with TSP heads and an MS3 tell me to my face that he loves the parts. And if you re-read the post, I'm saying I would buy them if I see real results. So exactly what's your problem with my post? It was only the truth.
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11-04-2006, 08:20 PM
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I've got a question in to them to find out why I was told that. I also want to get to the bottom of it, since it made me buy different heads. I'm still considering them if they prove themselves to be a lot better than the ones I have. But I'm happy with my Livernois heads. Just always willing to upgrade if I see a worthwhile gain for the dollar.
11-06-2006, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by N4cer
on TRMN8R's car they did tons of work to the heads to get them to fit that setup and put down what it did. He TOLD ME that they weren't off-the-shelf heads. They'd been worked more.
Your making it seem by your posts that extra hand porting was done when it wasn't. If we wanted more power we would have just ported his FAST intake.
