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Old 11-30-2006, 03:06 PM
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I bought a set of heads from a member here a few weeks ago and decided to get a valve job done before I install them. Shop calls me yesterday and tells me that there were a coupe small cracks between some of the valve seats. He says they see this fairly often and its nothing too likely to be major but I asked them to do a pressure test anyways, no results yet.. Anyone else heard of this happening on newer model aluminum heads?

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Originally Posted by Lurius
I bought a set of heads from a member here a few weeks ago and decided to get a valve job done before I install them. Shop calls me yesterday and tells me that there were a coupe small cracks between some of the valve seats. He says they see this fairly often and its nothing too likely to be major but I asked them to do a pressure test anyways, no results yet.. Anyone else heard of this happening on newer model aluminum heads?

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It is very common on Truck heads (4.8, 5.3, and 6.0). It doesn't really hurt the engine as a whole, but it will consume coolant. The bad ones eat about a gallon a month.
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Yeah, it happens. Hopefully can be repaired!
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mine has that prob...317s...no coolant probs though
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Why so common on truck motors? You are talking about the older Gen III iron cast, right?
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How are these usually repaired? I figured since they are aluminum maybe tig weld and machine it?

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Not sure how, never asked a machine shop the process, only seen the fixed result which looks like they somehow bake or weld metal in to the cracks.
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Well, I got a call back. Good news: They are fine. He said he got a good look at the port job and said it is one of the ebst hes seen in a while.. Looking forward to seeing what the motor will do with those heads now!

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PS: I asked him,and he reccomended they strip the heads and tig weld cracks, though they tested ok and welding only if it WAS leaking.

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Good to GO
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Originally Posted by 2002_Z28_Six_Speed
Why so common on truck motors? You are talking about the older Gen III iron cast, right?
The LS series engines.
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happens alot. guy I know will machine out one valve seat, IE the exhaust, Install an oversize seat with a flange, then machine the intake one overlapping the exhaust where they meet. So you have a figure 8 deal-e-o where one sits in another, but the valves are the same distance apart. maybe you could look into that. if they're not leakign i wouldnt really worry about it.
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Well such stress fractures will only expend under use, much more so if used with a power adder.
IMO, remove seats, weld, machine for new seats and reinstall. It is not a big issue and easily fixed, but I wouldn't run those on a high performance application as is.
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Im going to take a look at them in a couple days and i'll run those ideas by the guys and see if they feel it to be worth the trouble. They seem to be pretty knowledgable, shops been there 30 years.

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If this is going on a stock power motor and you want to try something cheap. There are additives that claim so seal a block up, seal heads up, and even fix problems like blown head gaskets.



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