Vortech YSi versus Paxton Novi versus ATI D1SC or F1R
12-05-2006, 07:25 PM
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Vortech YSi versus Paxton Novi versus ATI D1SC or F1R Does anyone have any pics of these blowers side by side or any comparison results as to power output on hydraulic cam motors. I just want to see how the YSi stacks up against the others.
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12-05-2006, 09:13 PM
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I know that the F1-R will make more power than the YSi and NOVI 2000 RACE blower. Both the YSi and NOVI RACE will make at least 50-80rwhp over the D-1SC. I would compare the F1 or maybe F1-A against the YSi and NOVI 2000 RACE more than the D-1SC.
The NOVI 2000 RACE will make better area under the curve over the YSi. I say this because my friend ran both blowers back to back on his car. Both blowers maxed out on his setup made 890rwhp and around 840rwtq, but the NOVI had in some areas 100rwtq more under the curve. The setup was a stroked 540cid viper so both blowers will make less than that on a V8 408cid or less.
The NOVI 2000 RACE will make better area under the curve over the YSi. I say this because my friend ran both blowers back to back on his car. Both blowers maxed out on his setup made 890rwhp and around 840rwtq, but the NOVI had in some areas 100rwtq more under the curve. The setup was a stroked 540cid viper so both blowers will make less than that on a V8 408cid or less.
12-06-2006, 08:40 AM
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those blower all put out different cfms so of course one is going to make more power than the other. as far as size goes they'll vary greatly.
like to see more info on your friends viper
like to see more info on your friends viper
12-06-2006, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
those blower all put out different cfms so of course one is going to make more power than the other. as far as size goes they'll vary greatly.
like to see more info on your friends viper
like to see more info on your friends viper
I have his YSi dyno here... I will have to ask him to send me the rest of the stuff to post the whole comparison
This is his YSi maxed out at 12psi against a Twin Turbo Viper running 16psi. You can see the turbos running out of steam on the top end
http://www.msnusers.com/CarsRelatedG...oto&PhotoID=39
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12-07-2006, 05:49 PM
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Paxton/Vortech are the same company now.
As for result's I do not have data on LS1's but we've tested over and over on Mustangs. Procharger is always on top in comparable tests. Our 357ci Stang with a F1R has gone 7.6's. A YSI on it would only go 8.0's.
The ECS paxton kit's are doing good because they run an oversized blower with restrictor plates to build boost down low/cut off peak boost.Thats why they get the midrange. You should see what happens when you use those restrictors on Prochargers.They murder the Paxtons
As for result's I do not have data on LS1's but we've tested over and over on Mustangs. Procharger is always on top in comparable tests. Our 357ci Stang with a F1R has gone 7.6's. A YSI on it would only go 8.0's.
The ECS paxton kit's are doing good because they run an oversized blower with restrictor plates to build boost down low/cut off peak boost.Thats why they get the midrange. You should see what happens when you use those restrictors on Prochargers.They murder the Paxtons
12-07-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Vortech
Where do you get the Novi Race version-the only version I see is the striaght discharge will flows 1400cfm-same as the D1SC.
12-11-2006, 12:30 PM
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F1R is rated as 2000 cfm blower.
F1 is rated at 1525.
YSi is rated at 1600.
But I think that max YSi performance is typically between the F1R and the F1.
Novi 2000 is supposed to be a very good blower, only point of reference I have was a Mustang friend who went from Novi 2000 to YSi and said he picked up. But I think if you are looking at the F1R, YSi, and Novi 2000, you are looking at some stout blowers.
F1 is rated at 1525.
YSi is rated at 1600.
But I think that max YSi performance is typically between the F1R and the F1.
Novi 2000 is supposed to be a very good blower, only point of reference I have was a Mustang friend who went from Novi 2000 to YSi and said he picked up. But I think if you are looking at the F1R, YSi, and Novi 2000, you are looking at some stout blowers.
12-11-2006, 01:43 PM
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PROCHARGER is self oiling---the others you have to tap the pan...Big Difference.
Im very happy with my YSi.....although if they did a larger version in the same frame, that would be a direct swap........of course I would.
12-11-2006, 02:22 PM
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I cant speak in regards to the Vortech or Procharger, but ECS built my 98 coupe with just forged rods and pistons in a 346, stock heads, headers, and their Paxton kit. I run 9.70's @ 141 with a 1.55 60' over and over again with a full tank of gas and nothing removed from my car. I'm sure there are other cars out there running times like this with my limited mods using the other head units, but I have yet to see it.
Then there is that little fact that the fastest supercharged C5 has an ECS Paxton kit on it, 9.33 @ 147 is hard to argue with. Once again, I am not putting down any head unit, just posting my results, I think any of the above mentioned head units will work great for 99.9% of the people out there.
Then there is that little fact that the fastest supercharged C5 has an ECS Paxton kit on it, 9.33 @ 147 is hard to argue with. Once again, I am not putting down any head unit, just posting my results, I think any of the above mentioned head units will work great for 99.9% of the people out there.
Any of the head units will work fine, except the F1R will put out more since its a bigger blower. It boils down to packaging and whose brackets/intercoolers you like the best and cost of course.
12-11-2006, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NHRAMAN
PROCHARGER is self oiling---the others you have to tap the pan...Big Difference.
dude are you serious??
seeing your signature, you don't have either one, so how do you know how much of a difference it is?
12-11-2006, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
since when is it a BIG DIFFERENCE on whether you have to tap the pan or not?
Anyone figure out how to put a filter on the F1 headunit?
Anyone figure out how to put a filter on the F1 headunit?