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Old 01-03-2007, 11:47 AM
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I was just curious about forced induction, particularly the procharger D-1SC. I don't have my car yet, but I am questioning as to which route I want to take. I think nitrous would be fun, but in the end I really would like something that has sick power at all times. Obviously if I went procharger I would also be doing a forged rebuild. MY question is this, how would the valvetrain noise and driveability be with a forged setup with a D-1SC slapped on? I would probably go baby cam, something like the z06 cam or a 224, something that you can barely tell is there but will pick up some power for you. Which heads would work well for a procharged street car keeping valvetrain noise to a minimum? Sorry for all the questions, I have just been interested in knowing some of this stuff. What kind of numbers could a D-1SC car make bit a baby cam and decent flowing heads with a good amount of boost?
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
Obviously if I went procharger I would also be doing a forged rebuild.
Why??
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Since FI does not demand radical cam timing, other than the inevitable whine of the blower, it would be possible to build a 500+ RWHP setup that was very close to stock until you built boost.
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My 02 z I had a Vortech with 10lbs of boost and a completely stock engine other than headers and a converter and made 500rwhp. Just depend;s on what your goal's are.
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Originally Posted by HUNTER02SS
My 02 z I had a Vortech with 10lbs of boost and a completely stock engine other than headers and a converter and made 500rwhp. Just depend;s on what your goal's are.
I've seen that done a few times, and is on my wish list
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I basically have everything you have described except I have the P-1SC. I wish that I would have bought the D-1SC but I got really good deal on the P-1SC kit at the time. I have a forged engine with 9.5:1 compression and a very small cam (214/224). My car makes around 560 rwhp with 9 psi. It is very driveable too! This past year I drove it to ATL for the F-body Gathering and it got 24-25 mpg on the highwaytrip down there from NC.
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How much power are you looking for? As stated above you can make about 500 rwhp with bolt ons and 8 psi and can add meth injection for safety. If your looking for more then go with the forged block but id say boost the stock block till it goes on you and then toss in a nice forged 347 with a small blower cam (for good idle quality) and up the boost. With a forged 347 and a ds1c you can make 600 + rwhp depending on how well the shortblock is built and how much boost your want to force into it.
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I basically figured I would go w/the forged internals while I would do the D1 swap, just so that I could save some money because I am pretty sure it wouldn't take too long to blow up the stock block on a decent amount of boost. My goals are 600 whp, a decent idle, and a smooth ride. I don't want to have a ton of valvetrain noise and things like that.
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Will going from the stock cam to a small blower cam really make a difference that is worth the sacrifice of having a really smooth idle?
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The Lingenfelter camshaft has worked very well for us, and it has a smooth idle. here is one C5 that we installed it in.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=40
Here is a Trans-Am that we installed it in.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=27 Bob
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
Will going from the stock cam to a small blower cam really make a difference that is worth the sacrifice of having a really smooth idle?
The Lingenfelter camshaft has worked very well for us, and it has a smooth idle. Here is a C5 that we installed it in.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=40
Here is a Trans-Am that we installed it in.
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=27 Bob
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Yea as Bob said above the lingenfelter gt2-3 is a great blower cam with near stock idle qaulity and is a proven performer. As for the forged internals, if you want to do everythign at once that is fine, especially if you have a buyer for your stock short block, but again you can hit 500 rwhp with bolt ons, the lingenfelter cam, and 8 psi out of a D1SC. Also, with meth injection you could push it and go for 9-10 psi and get even closer to 600 rwhp, then when the stock shortblock dies go and get a forged one.
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Here's a car with a Cam(220),headers and a P1. Rest of the motor is stock.
Did pretty good for a little P1 .Car drives 100% like stock
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What kinda boost can a D1 run before getting too hot???
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
What kinda boost can a D1 run before getting too hot???
With the ATI ProCharger 1GJ204-SCI's larger 4.5" twin intercoolers, we don't have a problem running 12 psi of boost through them. You could run 14 psi if you added a methanol kit. With our front mount intercooler kit, you can run quite a bit more boost without having inlet air temp problems. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=772 http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=42 Bob
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Check out my post in dyno section I have alot of the mods you are asking about
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Yeah I just checked it out thats pretty sweet man. I must say though, you are on crazy SOB running that kinda power w/that compression ratio haha. Either way, good luck to you with the car. Bob I appreciate the help you always give me when I ask questions in here. One last question though, how much boost do you think the D1 could push on pump gas without methanol? Thanks again everyone.
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Originally Posted by slowtealz28
Yeah I just checked it out thats pretty sweet man. I must say though, you are on crazy SOB running that kinda power w/that compression ratio haha. Either way, good luck to you with the car. Bob I appreciate the help you always give me when I ask questions in here. One last question though, how much boost do you think the D1 could push on pump gas without methanol? Thanks again everyone.
Thanks, I appreciate it. We have done 16 psi on 93 octane fuel with our front mount intercooler kit. Bob




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