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TORCHD 02 TA
01-29-2007, 08:49 PM
Well i got my cam today :devil: :drive: :chug:

Here are some pics. In the pic are Dual Springs, TI Retainers, Seats&Seals, 7.425" Push Rods and LS6 Oil Pump (ported and shimmed). I kept my stock locks..

All the info on the card is right. 110LSA on a 106ICL. but it does not +4 anywhere. Is it supposed? Other than that like i said it is all correct.

Car goes to StraightLine next monday.

what do you all think???

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/torchd02ta/CAM/DSC01798.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/torchd02ta/CAM/DSC01802.jpg
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i96/torchd02ta/CAM/DSC01803.jpg

Hawk108
01-29-2007, 09:14 PM
that is awesome! im super jealous...

TORCHD 02 TA
01-29-2007, 09:28 PM
that is awesome! im super jealous...


ha ha thanks. your time will come :D

Hawk108
01-29-2007, 09:32 PM
ha ha thanks. your time will come :D

I can only hope :) How long til you have it installed and ready to go??

TORCHD 02 TA
01-29-2007, 10:00 PM
I can only hope :) How long til you have it installed and ready to go??


The car goes to straightLine next Monday. Dont rally car when i get it back it is winter here in chi-town. and is snowing a little right now :(

Better not snow next Monday....

lastcall190
01-29-2007, 10:13 PM
Lucky... I can't wait for the day the FedEx guy brings my H/C. Vids when it's done!

-J

TORCHD 02 TA
01-29-2007, 10:15 PM
Lucky... I can't wait for the day the FedEx guy brings my H/C. Vids when it's done!

-J


i wanted to stick with my stock heads....

lastcall190
01-29-2007, 10:18 PM
i wanted to stick with my stock heads....

...ok...? Didn't imply shit I was just commenting :lol:

TORCHD 02 TA
01-29-2007, 10:22 PM
...ok...? Didn't imply shit I was just commenting :lol:


no i know i was jsut sayign that before someone said something..

thehammer69
01-30-2007, 12:31 AM
Well i got my cam today :devil: :drive: :chug:

Here are some pics. In the pic are Dual Springs, TI Retainers, Seats&Seals, 7.425" Push Rods and LS6 Oil Pump (ported and shimmed). I kept my stock locks..

All the info on the card is right. 110LSA on a 106ICL. but it does not +4 anywhere. Is it supposed? Other than that like i said it is all correct.



Noticed nobody answered your question... Subtract your ICL from your LSA and you have your advance. 110 - 106 = 4 .....So therefore, your advance is correct according to the cam card. As far as it actually being correct, you some form of Cam Doctor to see if it's ground on spec.

Hammer

brad8266
01-30-2007, 07:01 AM
If your card reads 110LSA 106ICL it has the 4 degrees ground into it already. Just install it dot to dot.

Toasty
01-30-2007, 07:50 AM
How much are you paying for the install and tuning?

I've got a G5x2 coming tomorrow, I'm in the same boat as you :devil:

TORCHD 02 TA
01-30-2007, 01:23 PM
Noticed nobody answered your question... Subtract your ICL from your LSA and you have your advance. 110 - 106 = 4 .....So therefore, your advance is correct according to the cam card. As far as it actually being correct, you some form of Cam Doctor to see if it's ground on spec.

Hammer


Where is the cam docot info at? And i knew it was at a 106ICL.. jsut curious as to why it did nto say +4 that is all...

If your card reads 110LSA 106ICL it has the 4 degrees ground into it already. Just install it dot to dot.


yea like i said above it is all correct according to the cam card. Yup installing it dot to dot

eamador11
01-30-2007, 01:42 PM
Well i got my cam today :devil: :drive: :chug:

Here are some pics. In the pic are Dual Springs, TI Retainers, Seats&Seals, 7.425" Push Rods and LS6 Oil Pump (ported and shimmed). I kept my stock locks..

All the info on the card is right. 110LSA on a 106ICL. but it does not +4 anywhere. Is it supposed? Other than that like i said it is all correct.

Guess this will be mostly a track car??

brad8266
01-30-2007, 01:46 PM
Guess this will be mostly a track car??
nope, its his DD car.

GreenBlood
01-30-2007, 02:10 PM
good luck man, I'll pm u when i come back this summer...i'd like to hear it...

N4cer
01-30-2007, 03:29 PM
For the record, it doesn't need to say +4 anywhere. If it says 106ICL 110LSA, that IS a +4. That's the commonly used terms from what I can tell. It's mostly on here that we just use the +x to make it easier.

110+4 = 110 LSA - 106 ICL

TORCHD 02 TA
01-30-2007, 03:57 PM
Guess this will be mostly a track car??


Like Brad said, it is more a summer car. I will see the track 1 or 2 times a year!

TORCHD 02 TA
01-30-2007, 03:57 PM
good luck man, I'll pm u when i come back this summer...i'd like to hear it...


ok, i will still be here :D

TORCHD 02 TA
01-30-2007, 03:59 PM
For the record, it doesn't need to say +4 anywhere. If it says 106ICL 110LSA, that IS a +4. That's the commonly used terms from what I can tell. It's mostly on here that we just use the +x to make it easier.

110+4 = 110 LSA - 106 ICL


yea i got the feeling that they did not note the +4. I saw that the 110LSA was correct and that they had 106 for the ICL. so i knew it was all good. More curious than anyhting

bastien
01-30-2007, 04:01 PM
brown truck dropping my off tomorrow, YAY!

TORCHD 02 TA
01-30-2007, 04:09 PM
brown truck dropping my off tomorrow, YAY!


specs???

bastien
01-30-2007, 04:54 PM
specs???

TSP torquer 2 :drive:

pdd
01-30-2007, 05:23 PM
nice cam choice bro, mine is very close to yours :) in sig

okls1
01-30-2007, 08:57 PM
I had that same cam in my z28 only +2, I had true dual o/r h with sweet thunders dumped.... sounds NASTY :devil: Im sure your car will sound the same way, get ready to enjoy the disgust/confusion on everyone's face when u pull up. I miss that sometimes as the new car is quiet, but oh well I wouldn't go back now. Are u on stock gears? I had 4.10s and mine still surged down low but the idle was at 850 cus I loved the sound. Good luck and I wanna see some numbers when your done.

here is a little vid of my first startup :) http://www.fquick.com/videos/flvs/thumbs_sm/957.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=957)View Video on FQuick (http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=957)

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 01:16 PM
I had that same cam in my z28 only +2, I had true dual o/r h with sweet thunders dumped.... sounds NASTY :devil: Im sure your car will sound the same way, get ready to enjoy the disgust/confusion on everyone's face when u pull up. I miss that sometimes as the new car is quiet, but oh well I wouldn't go back now. Are u on stock gears? I had 4.10s and mine still surged down low but the idle was at 850 cus I loved the sound. Good luck and I wanna see some numbers when your done.

here is a little vid of my first startup :) http://www.fquick.com/videos/flvs/thumbs_sm/957.jpg (http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=957)View Video on FQuick (http://www.fquick.com/videos/viewvideo.php?id=957)


Ohh yea i have that sound clip saved when you were selling your car :(

Honetly how was the power with it? When did it kick in, anything that you can think of would be great! Yes i am on stock gears for.. 3.42s M6 car...

i will post up the numbers. BTW what did you make? and what mods did you have

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 01:17 PM
nice cam choice bro, mine is very close to yours :) in sig


:rock:


nice cam choice bro, mine is very close to yours :) in sig


how do you like it on the street? How does it feel over all. When do yuo say the power comes in?

Gilty1
01-31-2007, 03:40 PM
Cant wait to see some numbers!!

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 03:57 PM
Cant wait to see some numbers!!


hopefully by next saturday i will the numbers.. Providing that the car will be done

Hawk108
01-31-2007, 04:19 PM
Cant wait to see some numbers!!

+1 i am trying to decide if i want to go with this cam or the torquer 2. Good thing i have a Loooooong time to figure it out :bang:

okls1
01-31-2007, 04:40 PM
Honetly how was the power with it? When did it kick in, anything that you can think of would be great! Yes i am on stock gears for.. 3.42s M6 car...
i will post up the numbers. BTW what did you make? and what mods did you have
Power was VERY nice, it pulls very hard the whole way, but my cam was retarded even dot to dot for some reason. You are +4 so shouldn't be as big of a concern but if u can degree it to ensure proper valve events. Lower gears would probably help you, mine was 4.10s in a 10 bolt but then traction goes out the window lol. I made 390/366 at the tires with lt's, 3in. o/r h, sweet thunders, tsp lid, bo white ported tb, the 4.10s. NO pulley or anything, but like you can see from the graph even my cam was retarded from what it should have been, but still pulled real nice. Here is the graph, notice how it is still slightly gaining at 6500... :( Oh and the a/f is not right it read wrong because could not get the sniffer in the right place due to the dumps.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f288/okls1/dyno.jpg

It sounds like u have done your research and have it all in order. Are you doing the swap? Just make sure you get a good tune, because mine was not happy at first and still had surging like I said, but I didn't bother fixing it. You will love the cam, great power and sounds amazing.

s346k
01-31-2007, 05:11 PM
the "106 intake centerline" and "110 lobe separation angle" is your 110+4...it's on your cam card.

install the cam dot to dot. that looks to be a GREAT cam, i am very anxious to see results on it, as i would call it the best "middle of the road" cam to have...except maybe i'd close the intake valve a little sooner with a 224* intake duration @ 50.

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 07:00 PM
the "106 intake centerline" and "110 lobe separation angle" is your 110+4...it's on your cam card.

install the cam dot to dot. that looks to be a GREAT cam, i am very anxious to see results on it, as i would call it the best "middle of the road" cam to have...except maybe i'd close the intake valve a little sooner with a 224* intake duration @ 50.


yea you're right. would have raised my DCR from 8.2 to 8.4 :(

Ahh ohh well little late now.. it will still be fine... And yes installing it dot to dot.

Thanks for the info.. SHould still be a great cam

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 07:05 PM
Power was VERY nice, it pulls very hard the whole way, but my cam was retarded even dot to dot for some reason. You are +4 so shouldn't be as big of a concern but if u can degree it to ensure proper valve events. Lower gears would probably help you, mine was 4.10s in a 10 bolt but then traction goes out the window lol. I made 390/366 at the tires with lt's, 3in. o/r h, sweet thunders, tsp lid, bo white ported tb, the 4.10s. NO pulley or anything, but like you can see from the graph even my cam was retarded from what it should have been, but still pulled real nice. Here is the graph, notice how it is still slightly gaining at 6500... :( Oh and the a/f is not right it read wrong because could not get the sniffer in the right place due to the dumps.
http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f288/okls1/dyno.jpg

It sounds like u have done your research and have it all in order. Are you doing the swap? Just make sure you get a good tune, because mine was not happy at first and still had surging like I said, but I didn't bother fixing it. You will love the cam, great power and sounds amazing.


I am hoping to make 400 at the rears. i have all the mods you have, except i will be doing a pulley.... All my mods are in sig... What do you mean your cam was retarted? are you talking about installing it? Yea i am going to be doing 4.10s. But how will the cam act with my 3.42s??? shit i know some people that are runinga stall and bigger duartions with 2.73 :jest:

I should get the right A:F.. my TDs are ran out the back... But yes i did my reasearch. and lots of it too.. Not i am not doing the swap. It is going to StraightLine here in IL. They are good tuners, so hopefully they can get it down pat????

Thanks for all the positive feedback

okls1
01-31-2007, 07:24 PM
The cam was retarded for the intended grind. When installing dot to dot with a small advance like the +2 I had, it is possible for the cam to be advanced or retarded. Basically my cam was probably more like a 110-2 or something. Giving it 112icl or maybe more. I was told that it happens with some ls1's because the tolerances in the motor are loose enough to allow this to happen :bang: Thus you should DEGREE the cam using a degree wheel to insure the intended valve events are going to take place. There is a guy pewterme I believe, has a pewter vette with the same cam I did. He was not happy with tq after his install, and had it done again only degreed and he picked up like 20ft/lbs at the tires. He made around 382/380 I think.... His original numbers were like 390/356 or something. I could tell mine was retarded cus it didnt seem to peak even at 6600 rpm just flat there and it made poor torque from a "torque" cam. I would say if they can degree it, have them do it so its right the first time.

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 07:32 PM
The cam was retarded for the intended grind. When installing dot to dot with a small advance like the +2 I had, it is possible for the cam to be advanced or retarded. Basically my cam was probably more like a 110-2 or something. Giving it 112icl or maybe more. I was told that it happens with some ls1's because the tolerances in the motor are loose enough to allow this to happen :bang: Thus you should DEGREE the cam using a degree wheel to insure the intended valve events are going to take place. There is a guy pewterme I believe, has a pewter vette with the same cam I did. He was not happy with tq after his install, and had it done again only degreed and he picked up like 20ft/lbs at the tires. He made around 382/380 I think.... His original numbers were like 390/356 or something. I could tell mine was retarded cus it didnt seem to peak even at 6600 rpm just flat there and it made poor torque from a "torque" cam. I would say if they can degree it, have them do it so its right the first time.


If i am not mistaking. the whole point of the +4 grounded in is so that it will ensure proper VE when installed DOT TO DOT??? if you isntall iusing a degreeign wheel and line it up at +4, wont then be a +8???? Maybe some how it was installed wrong on your car :(

Let me know

brad8266
01-31-2007, 07:38 PM
If i am not mistaking. the whole point of the +4 grounded in is so that it will ensure proper VE when installed DOT TO DOT??? if you isntall iusing a degreeign wheel and line it up at +4, wont then be a +8???? Maybe some how it was installed wrong on your car :(

Let me know
your cam has 4 ground into it, line up dot to dot for your 106ICL. if you degree it 4 degrees from dots on install it will be 102ICL.

After you install it you can still verify ICL with a degree wheel.

okls1
01-31-2007, 07:41 PM
Yes the +4 ground into your cam can not be changed, but when it is installed into the motor the cam may not line up perfectly to give u that +4. It is possible for it to be off a litte, thus retarding or advancing the cam from what it should be. In the cam sticky at the bottom is a writeup about degreeing the cam. Basically you check to make sure it is going to be on the right icl and what not. If its not, then you use an adj. timing chain to set it properly. You could advance more with this method as well like you said makiing it more then +4. I installed the cam and it was dot to dot, even have a picture to prove it lol. Degreeing the cam is just a good idea because you buy the cam to perform a certain way, and that just makes sure it will.

Im not saying to advance it more with degree wheel, just check to make sure you get the 106icl desired, and if not make adjustments to correct that.

brad8266
01-31-2007, 07:43 PM
Im not saying to advance it more with degree wheel, just check to make sure you get the 106icl desired, and if not make adjustments to correct that.
:werd: :stupid: Always a good idea to verify it.

TORCHD 02 TA
01-31-2007, 07:49 PM
i am sure the shop will do that.. Thanks for the info :D