Chosing between Forced Induction, and Natural Aspirated motor
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Chosing between Forced Induction, and Natural Aspirated motor
I am wondering if turbo charging an LSx engine is "more bang for the buck" / more power for the money??? I am thinking i will always pay more for a Natural Aspirated motor. Is it possoble to have a 800hp turbocharged motor, and use it for a daily driver also? i am always looking around of what i would like to do to my engine in my 00 t/a and i have no clue which way to go.
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High maint.??? Fill the bottle up and go, how hard is that? Plus youre not spraying all the time so its pretty cost/labor effective to use it.
And if you look at all the problems associated with N2O, 9 times out of 10 its user default.
And if you look at all the problems associated with N2O, 9 times out of 10 its user default.
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Best bang for buck would problibly be a l92 stroker with l92 heads and l76 intake a shop here in Ca just made 520 rwhp with unported heads and unported intake and nothing fancy. 550 rwhp should not be a problem with a little more attention to detail. this setup is a lot less expensive than forced induction and probibly easier to maintain.
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Best bang for buck would problibly be a l92 stroker with l92 heads and l76 intake a shop here in Ca just made 520 rwhp with unported heads and unported intake and nothing fancy. 550 rwhp should not be a problem with a little more attention to detail. this setup is a lot less expensive than forced induction and probibly easier to maintain.
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
High maint.??? Fill the bottle up and go, how hard is that? Plus youre not spraying all the time so its pretty cost/labor effective to use it.
And if you look at all the problems associated with N2O, 9 times out of 10 its user default.
And if you look at all the problems associated with N2O, 9 times out of 10 its user default.
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
I have though about N20, but i think thats high maintenance, and i usually hear things go wrong.
But what about Forced Induction motors?
But what about Forced Induction motors?
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Originally Posted by chris.shea
N2O aint exactly "Cheap". price it out to do it right (directport, standalone, all associated goodies and fills) when you spray big (200+) you burn through nitrous quick. id burn through 20lbs of nitrous a day at the track on a smaller 150shot. ($6.50 per pound so after taxes 140 bucks). this doesnt even count how much i used on the street. maintnance was simple(check noids, jets and clean filter)
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Any high HP DD motor is going to be pretty pricey to setup correctly. The less you initially spend, the more maintenance will be required. The good thing about turbos is the ability to make insane power and keep good driving manners on the street. The highest HP/displacement factory cars that have to be relatively maintenance free and carry a warranty are turboed.
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if you think n2o is high maintenance.........dont get a turbo!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
Well, there is no law stating that you have to run a direct port, standalone or bells and whistles... and its also legal to run just a 100 or 150 shot. And do it right??? I guess my uncle who has a mid 9 second Chevelle with a plate system (for the last 5 yrs WITHOUT a problem) isnt "doing it right" then huh? Bottom line is, COMPARED to FI, N20 is CHEAP (on initial buy-in). Of course if you want to do a top dollar setup then the price will go up (like with anything).
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Bang for buck is N2O. FI is extremely intense as far as money, labor, and planning. Don't get me wrong N2O can be but it can also be simple and cheap. It will also depend on what power level you are shooting for. If you spray big and go to the track a lot your motor will pay but not due to malfunction but just in wear. A huge hit effects the engine differently. If just run a 100 or 150 you would be fine. My opinion is a H/C with a 150 shot wet kit for bang for buck!
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Originally Posted by Gordon0652
I am wondering if turbo charging an LSx engine is "more bang for the buck" / more power for the money??? I am thinking i will always pay more for a Natural Aspirated motor. Is it possoble to have a 800hp turbocharged motor, and use it for a daily driver also? i am always looking around of what i would like to do to my engine in my 00 t/a and i have no clue which way to go.
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without question forced induction is the way to go.
the cost of refilling bottles over a year adds up, plus you have the inconvenience of not having the power there when the bottle is empty.
Go F/I and never look back. Add nitrous on top to go into hyperspace!
the cost of refilling bottles over a year adds up, plus you have the inconvenience of not having the power there when the bottle is empty.
Go F/I and never look back. Add nitrous on top to go into hyperspace!
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I'm a big fan of FI, but that's cause it's about the only way to make power with small motors. Being an import guy, my standard of small way different than yours. 122CI (2.0L) is typical, and my car at 181 (3.0L) is a "big motor".
As far as what's going to be lower maintenance I can't help. Oh, and the turbo+ N20 thing is just as bad, as straight N20. Your only going to be your standard of fast on the bottle, everything else just seems slow.
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Lets be realistic for a second, how much does it cost to refill a 10lb. bottle ,what, ~40 bucks? And that SHOULD last for about 8-11 full qtr. mile passes...Now unless youre getting your bottle filled every other day, it will be a while before you catch up to the price of a FI kit. Now general maint. is req'd of all setups, FI you have belt, oil, bearings, springs, etc. (granted, if anything needs to be replaced it will cost money of course ). Nothings lasts forever anyway so if youre on a VERY SMALL budget...Go N2O!!! No matter which way YOU pick, I guarantee you'll be faster!
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
Lets be realistic for a second, how much does it cost to refill a 10lb. bottle ,what, ~40 bucks? And that SHOULD last for about 8-11 full qtr. mile passes...Now unless youre getting your bottle filled every other day, it will be a while before you catch up to the price of a FI kit. Now general maint. is req'd of all setups, FI you have belt, oil, bearings, springs, etc. (granted, if anything needs to be replaced it will cost money of course ). Nothings lasts forever anyway so if youre on a VERY SMALL budget...Go N2O!!! No matter which way YOU pick, I guarantee you'll be faster!