ADAM HUTCHINSON

Hi guys,

I am at the stage now where I will have to fab up some type of headers for the swap.....

question...
1=are there any standard headers that just bolt on and can clear the driver side steering shaft?

2=if not..whats the easiest set of headers to modify(least amount of work)

I was looking at a set of hooker headers, the block hugger ls1 ones...

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...0002_759626_-1


how do you think these will work? i will obviously ahve to fab up the down pipes

any hints on what the easiest path is?

Thanks
Adam

kansaschity

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hinson sells headers that will clear, however there $800

icantdrift

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those hookers could work ok, they would end up being run much like my C5 manifold setup where you'd just come out of the collector and run a single pipe around the steering shaft on either side (i opted to go between the shaft and framerail area).

Ted J

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Those headers will not work, already tried them and had to send them back.

On the drivers side the collector is touching the steering rack and/or steering shaft on my set up and even if it didn't touch the collector is pointing right at the steering rack/steering shaft.

If you reverse sides they won't even bolt up for one of the two the collector hits the block before the flange goes flush against the head.

I wished the would have worked for they are a good price and all. I didn't think they would be worth modding for if I'm going to do that much work I'd go ahead and try to fab up or modify a long tube set to work.

HTH!

cnichols

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$800 is actually not a horrible price for a set of custom Stainless Steel long tube headers for an LS1 if you've seen what they're charging for other long tubes of the same quality. I'm very happy I went with Hinson on the headers. My only complaint was that the O2 bosses weren't welded in....not a big deal. I say save up the money and bite the bullet...you won't regret it.

fouz65

yea. i got the hinson headers on mine. mine didnt have to o2 bungs on them either. but the main reason i got em is i just didnt want to spend the time it takes to make my own custom LT headers. the headers are great in everyway BUT, they limit you on how far the motor can go back. i took alittle off the streeing shaft u-joint (no big deal. theres alot there) and i was still able to use a 3.5" intake. but its tight. also. you have to make sure the motor is in there perfect ( for the headers). i have 1/8" space or less between, the pass header and frame, driver header and steer shaft, and power steering pulley and intake. and maybe 2"- 2.5" (just guessing ATM, cant remeber) between back of heads and firewall.
just my theory. the headers were made for hes car with hes mounts which lowers the crossmember which lowers the steering rack and changes the steering shaft angle. so im sure they work even better with hes mounts. but i dont reget useing them with my own mounts. they work. just take your time and make sure everything clears.

or maybe i just didnt do it right, who knows.

ls1neezy

either custom or hinson ..

fouz65

maybe another option. seen mike post this up a few days ago. here .
maybe a source for headers.
mounts are called "chin" and the car looks like hes so i guess its all like hes set up.

datboibrad

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can you get a picture of these clearance issues? its hard to understand what your saying.

mmdb

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11k for the kit?? Jesus... I would like to buy the ps and ac lines, and maybe the exhaust manifold if it isn't so much of a price.

sierrac3_s2000

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If I am understanding correctly that includes an LS1 and T56 with installation. I don't think that is really that bad of a price since it eliminates all the headaches and includes all the parts.

Tim

icantdrift

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you are correct sir. complete swap. you drop the car and the cash, you pick up the car in completed form ready to rock. the price isn't bad at all considering shop labor averages $75/hr and the LS1 swap isn't exactly a "bolt in" affair. they also take the guesswork out of sourcing your own components.

datboibrad

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man i need to open the doors to my shop if people are getting 11k for this crap lol.

ADAM HUTCHINSON

hmmm so the hookers wont work ehh... crap I have a set on order...


I was thinking of just cutting all the runners down..then making a high mounted log style manifold..that should be easily high enough..then just take the exhaust off the rear portion of that... i know it wont flow nearly as well, and will not separate the exhaust pulses..however it would be easy to do..and for the small power loss.. might be worth the easyness of it.

what do you guys think?

0100

Do it up Lions! It's how you make money in this world. Use your skills to make some coin...

Ted J

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I would suggest not spending all that money for that, just get a set of C5 manifolds (the weld together type) instead of going through all of that work and it will be a lot cheaper. I got my first set for $18 shipped and my second set for $40 shipped. Just make sure you have them send you a picture first and make sure they are the welded together kind that look like these:

http://pic17.picturetrail.com/VOL828.../181436804.jpg

The '97 to '99's look to be the same and the set I'm geting now are from a '00 and they look like the collector is a little different but the rest of the manifold looks to be the same. Obviously you don't want the cast ones for they won't be easy to modify.

HTH!

Ted J

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Well, closer to $5500 to $6000 after you factor in the cost of the LS1/T56. All the little items add up and they need to be compenstated for their time.

To have a 320 to 340 RWHP swap car for $11K not counting the cost of the car isn't to shabby if you don't have the means to do it and would like to have a turn key set up that has power steering and A/C working on it isn't to shabby. I know of this one show that was charing like $3K or so just do a cam swap on a LS1 powered f-body for they take off the heads and go through them etc... All depends on what people are willing to pay I guess.

icantdrift

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well there is a little padding there since the great mike peters will touch the car. that's got to be worth at least another $1.50 or $2. i'd be willing to pay up to $0.50 just to play guitar hero on his blinged out axe.

sierrac3_s2000

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Does anyone know if they are offering new running gear or is it used?

datboibrad

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rofl. ive got my buddy Initial What? to battle mike on guitar hero anyday. so he can bring it. SETX > *.

iono man i think i could charge people 50 bux to have mike sit in their car and test drive it