Pontiac Firebird 1967-2002 - WS6 vs GTO?




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whitedevilWS6
03-11-2007, 07:47 PM
this may be a stupid question, but i've heard mixed reports. which one is faster, a WS6 or an LS2 GTO? i'd say the GTO. maybe the people i was talking to just need to get educated, but they said the WS6 is faster. also i think the T/As weigh in around 200 lbs less than a GTO. anyone here know for sure? any personal experience?


Jersey_TA
03-11-2007, 08:05 PM
If your racing the 04 GTO, then the T/A is faster. Since the question was about the LS2 GTO then I'd give it to the GTO. My friend ran 12.9 with his 06 M6 GTO. I guess it all comes down to driver.

Italiankid77
03-11-2007, 11:47 PM
I agree it comes down to the drive,But im gonna have to say the T/A just b/ci own one.


02SLPTransAm
03-11-2007, 11:50 PM
T/A all the way...well I beat a stock 06 LS2 car by quite a bit....with the mods in my sig....stock for stock i have heard t/a due to weight

Batman WS-6
03-12-2007, 08:31 AM
WS6 hands down. I hit 12.94 bone stock with my 02, I've seen a couple LS2 GTO's in that range but they aren't the norm. I Normally see them in the 13.3-13.5 range. If the GTO was lighter it would be the faster car easily.

coxta
03-12-2007, 04:03 PM
you have to know how to drive them...my freind has been 2 05-06 Goats with his Stock 02 A4 WS6, i personally havent gotten to race one yet because my tranny has been out for the past 6months

DrEvyl
03-12-2007, 10:42 PM
I'd say an '02 WS6 would be faster than the '05-'06 GTO, but a LS2 GTO would be faster than a '98 WS6.

BriancWS6
03-12-2007, 10:57 PM
If my car was back to stock I wouldnt be afraid of an LS2 GTO. My WS6 was one of them that ran 12s stock.

BLK02TA
03-12-2007, 11:31 PM
Beat a 05+ GTO also. My votes for the ws6.

DocEwww
03-13-2007, 12:15 AM
LS2 GTO on the highway no doubt.

From a dig its more of a drivers race, GTOs having a IRS and skinny tires makes it a real bitch to get a decent launch.

and yea...just a little personal experience ;)

2000badbird
03-13-2007, 12:30 AM
LS2 GTO on the highway no doubt.

From a dig its more of a drivers race, GTOs having a IRS and skinny tires makes it a real bitch to get a decent launch.

and yea...just a little personal experience ;)


stock for stock

i agree from a dig ws6 all the way 60 or 70 roll ls2 gto they got more top end


and word on the personal experience

gnbooster87
03-13-2007, 01:13 AM
02 t/a hands down :burn:

Formula350
03-13-2007, 03:11 AM
PFFF! LT1 > ALL c'mon lol (I'm kidding, so extinguish your flames!)

Why not an LS2 in a WS6?! ;)

theroad64
03-13-2007, 04:30 AM
The LS2 Goat will pull your LS1 TA on the highway and will trap a higher mile per hour.

For some reason imo people place too much stock in E.T around here...

Batman WS-6
03-13-2007, 07:00 AM
The LS2 Goat will pull your LS1 TA on the highway and will trap a higher mile per hour.

For some reason imo people place too much stock in E.T around here...

I agree ET is a sketchy way to determine performance since it is determined mostly in the first 60 FT. But I do think acceleration is a good test and the later LS1 F-bodies out acclerate the GTO to around 100MPH or so with 75 less HP (granted they weigh about 350 pounds less). Personally I am not really concerned if a car is faster from 80+ MPH, it just doesn't interest me. just my $.02. To me it is like saying "My car is faster downhill with a tialwind in the rain" You can set parameters to which either car is going to have an advantage but the typical benchmarks are 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 mile times. All of which an 01-02 WS6 has an advantage.

jbutta224
03-13-2007, 12:00 PM
i got a 99 ta ws6 and an 06 gto both m6's i honestly had the gto sine like october and raced them once reason being im teachin my wife how to race but she still isnt up to par and i just had my friend drive it once cause i was tired of not knowing sooo anyways he used traction control and i dont have it so we started he got me hard off of the start but i hit second and when i did we where dead even then we both had to slow down cause we had run out of room ga police are all over but im gonna have my buddy go out on 95 with me but b4 i had done this it was after the marine corps ball and was goin home and i destroyed my buddys 02 ss a4 from 100 to 140-145 startin off behind him

Batman WS-6
03-13-2007, 12:22 PM
That is one hell of a sentence......

asuperdave
03-13-2007, 02:03 PM
didnt even take a breath :hijack:

Formula350
03-13-2007, 02:37 PM
That is one hell of a sentence......


I didn't see a period... it's still going on in his head!

Captainofiron
03-13-2007, 03:23 PM
from what I understand the IRS on the GTO makes launching kinda hard, so from a dig, I say the WS6 would win

2002TAWS6Pontiac
03-13-2007, 08:35 PM
yeah i have expierence in this. from a dig my WS6 wins, but from a roll the goat is gone.

01T/A
03-14-2007, 06:07 PM
i dont have a ws6 but in my o1 T/A stock i beat a 5.7 GTO with ease i raced a 2006 6.0 and he had small modds an he could only beat me about half a car so i would say WS6 all the way but like everyone else said it could also be the driver!

Rawr256
03-14-2007, 06:11 PM
Raced a LS2 GTO with my TA up to about 70mph, I had maybe a car or half on him to there, but he was gaining speed quick, I let off and he blew past me.

From a dig advantage goes to the F-body, roll would be a GTO is my best guess.

Formula350
03-14-2007, 06:34 PM
i dont have a ws6 but in my o1 T/A stock i beat a 5.7 GTO with ease i raced a 2006 6.0 and he had small modds an he could only beat me about half a car so i would say WS6 all the way but like everyone else said it could also be the driver!

WS6 doesn't add 50hp like so many seem to think lol

02BeaugusWS6
03-14-2007, 09:30 PM
my only run in with a ls2 gto on the highway i got him, the extra power in those cars doesn't make up for the extra weight

01T/A
03-14-2007, 10:27 PM
I never said or thought the WS6 had 50 more HP but it is a faster car stock!

Captainofiron
03-14-2007, 10:56 PM
WS6 doesn't add 50hp like so many seem to think lol


no it adds 100hp, lol jokes

Blue LS1
03-14-2007, 11:20 PM
I'm surprised at the results of this thread. I would have thought the GTO from every angle. I should have raced my friend when he had his 05 GTO M6. Oh well, I'm sure I'll see one this summer.

brazenorangegto
03-16-2007, 12:32 PM
my only run in with a ls2 gto on the highway i got him, the extra power in those cars doesn't make up for the extra weight


Then the driver wasn't racing. From 60 on the GTO will outpower the WS6. Launching the GTO, as someone said, is very hard especially with the stock tires.

Having an A4 they are quick out of the box but unless you get a tune torque management kills them. I would by no means say the WS6 hands down as some say( they are prolly a little biased ) but it definitely has an advantage from a dig.