Military Hotrod Club - navy pilots needed
04-08-2007, 10:04 PM
ok im 19 about to turn 20 in may. im joining the navy after the summer for personal reasons everyone dosnt want me to go but i feel i need it in my life right now! first thing i took my pre test and scored 95 out of 100. dont know if its easier or harder dont care. second i want to be a navy pilot and dont have a 4 year degree at any school. my recruiter told me about STA-21 which is a officer program wich after u pick what u want to do and go through boot camp and ur secondary job school u can apply for STA-21 and then they put u in any school in the USA that has a ROTC for the navy.
after i get my 4 year degree i go to pilot school and thats how i would become a pilot.
so my question is, is this for real and a easy goal to reach or hard and not accomplishable?
04-09-2007, 09:42 AM
there are a bunch of Officer programs. STA-21 is a good one and there is also the Naval Academy, these would be your best bet. As long as your in good helth and have good SAT scores there not to hard to get into. But as far as flight school, that isnt going to be the easiest thing to get into, its not imposible theres just a bunch of applicants. but what ever you do good luck.
04-09-2007, 12:31 PM
04-09-2007, 12:57 PM
here is the number for the director for STA-21 in Newport RI (401) 841-6613 im sure thay will be able to give you a ton of info.
04-09-2007, 01:35 PM
thank you vary much
04-09-2007, 01:57 PM
I have a friend that is a coast guard pilot, I could get you in touch with him if it would help.
04-09-2007, 02:03 PM
04-09-2007, 05:56 PM
I'm a Marine pilot. We go thru the same training as the Navy.
You have to apply for the academy in your junior year of HS. I think Your a little late for that.
I don't know anything about STA-21, but it sounds to me like your prior enlisted before you get comissioned and go to flight school.
If I were in your shoes, I'd get some loans and get the easiest 4 year bachelors degree you can get. Make sure you get it at a school that is recognized by the Navy though. Most are. Then get comissioned, go to OCS, then off to flt school.
04-09-2007, 09:57 PM
one more Q: when do u get ur sign up bonus? when u sign up or after boot camp or what?
04-09-2007, 10:45 PM
one more Q: when do u get ur sign up bonus? when u sign up or after boot camp or what?
I never got one of those. :cry:
I dunno about the navy, but Marine pilots only get it if they renew thier enlistment. I have an 8 year contract, so in 8 years, when I re-up, I'll get a fat bonus. We didn't get any initial signing bonus. Only enlisted guys get that I thought.
04-09-2007, 11:06 PM
im going in as enlisted than switching to the STA-21 program thats when ill be going through the pilot program. but im suppose to get a nice sign up bonus for avation mechanic. just wondering when i get it.
04-10-2007, 06:48 AM
why bother with the enlisted? why not just go officer?
04-10-2007, 09:50 AM
You will get your bonus after you finish your "A" school. The bonus is a incentive for you to complete that school not for joining the navy. It is alot easier to go officer once you are enlisted there a ton of programs that you can use. going officer straight out of college is harder becasue they look at what your degree is in and your gpa. and just to be competitive you have to have atleast a 3.5 or higher. either way you choose good luck.
04-10-2007, 10:06 AM
Usually the first month of you being at your first command you will get your bonus. Another good thing about STA-21, Is while you are going to school, you are getting paid your regular pay that you got before. But on the down side, it is a full time school, no summer break.... For every year it takes you to complete your college thats two years you have to surve the navy. Your best bet though is get your pre-reqs out of the way, that way when you go up for board they see that you allready have some school experince and are willing to go through with it. There are a lot of stuff that most people don't think about, like your package... Interviews, An Essay stating why it would be a good decision on the Navy's part to allow you to go through the program. You can even go SEAMAN TO ADMIRAL. I know of three people that is doing that, Once you choose your A-school, AND MAKE SURE YOU DO GO TO A-SCHOOL, don't sign up as an Airman, Fireman, Or Seaman ie Undesignated Recruit. Make sure you are locked in on a rate that you would like to work in. Good luck and keep us Posted. Any more questions feel free to ask
04-10-2007, 11:48 AM
On the Naval acadamey I want to say its like the AF acadamey and you have to me accepted by the end of the summer before you start your senior year in high school.
04-10-2007, 01:27 PM
04-11-2007, 08:58 AM
Watch out for the bonus. becouse lets say you sign up for a rate that gets a bonus for 5 years and you go to STA-21 or whatever in two you break your contract and have to pay a portion of it back. But ya STA is cool you get E-5 pay till you make E-6
what school were you looking into? I herd some used to have incetives, But im not sure.
04-12-2007, 12:07 AM
uf in gainesville,fl. or if i can ucf
04-12-2007, 01:22 AM
Im not sure how you guys are saying officer programs are easy to get while enlisted. Maybe im just in a command that doesnt put it out. I do talk to most of the pilots and a good % of them are prior enlisted.
Most of whom did the 4-5 year enlisted. Eared a 2 year degree during that first enlistment. Then GI billed a 4 year degree and then did the officer programs.
Hell.. I've seen E1's with a BA and they are having trouble with getting into a officer program.
Ive also seen 7 year chiefs make LDO... To each his own..
What rate did you choose? If you have any questions about any Enlisted aviation rate I'll gladly give you the spill.
Im an aviations machinist mate. Cool rate.
04-12-2007, 03:15 AM
sta-21 is VERY competitive. You are going against senior enlisted personnel and everyone else in the navy. They only grab 1200 a year and I was told only about 5 of those spots are for E-3 and below. Me being E-3 and new to the Navy its almost impossible unless you stay in for a while and make rate to E-5. Also with sta-21 its very hard to be guaranteed pilot. If they don't need pilots after you pick it you go "needs of the navy" it happened to a friend of mine who is E-5. If you are below 22 I would recommend applying for the Naval Academy while active duty. That is what I am trying to do. 100 spots reserved for active duty every year. But think how many fit the age bracket and actually apply? I was applying but ran out of time for the year so I have to try next time. My counselor told me I would def be going if I had finished. They also send you to NAPS (naval academy preparation school) in Rhode Island which helps you get an edge over your civilian competition in the academy. However you MUST be AT the academy before your 23rd birthday.
04-12-2007, 07:13 AM
Senate I have been in the Navy for 14 years and was an E-6 when I got selected for OCS. I am actually waiting to start Aviation Preflight Indoctrination (API) right nowas a Naval Flight officer. I agree with bird it is very competitive to be selected for an Officer program. Here is a good site to check out for questions about applying www.airwarriors.com
There are tons of threads about what you need to do to apply and how to become and Officer. Good Luck Scrappy
04-12-2007, 09:28 PM
That is a great site for info. My flight instructor is a super-mod there.
Scrappy: I finished API in november. Do you have all the current gouge?
04-12-2007, 09:32 PM
cool i will deff look in to it
04-12-2007, 10:30 PM
Be very wary of all recruiters...their primary job is to ENLIST people. So, to him...yes getting you enlisted and then applying for a pilot slot is ideal. He gets what he wants right away...then MAYBE you get what you want. Granted, being a prior E does shed a little shining light on your package when you apply to OCS or similar programs...but getting a degree on your own first never hurts your chances with anything.
Weigh your options carefully, fortunately you are starting young enough to have many of them in front of you. But remember...needs of the service always come first, just ask a couple Army guys about a little thing called "Stop-loss". When you enlist, there is never a "guaranteed" job no matter what they tell you or what you sign. Think about if you get hurt or have some benign health problem that disqualifies you from pilot training...then you are stuck with a service commitment and no hope of flying.
If it was me at that age, I would second the motion of getting the degree...study your ass off, get a killer GPA, even maybe get some flight training. Then, you will still be young enough to apply to OCS and pilot training 4 or 5 times before you even come close to the age limits. Education never goes bad, degrees last forever, but kudos for having such a clear focus and great direction in life already. I wish I had been that smart when I was 19;)
04-12-2007, 10:45 PM
Im in the same boat i guess. I am thinking of being a pilot. But ill tell you what my dad told me. He went to the naval academy and one of the guys he used to work with was the commandant. It is soooo much easier to be a pilot if you attend a service academy. i.e. naval academy, af academy. Out of all the people that get selected for flight school they have the most. That will be your best chance, plus they pay for it! The second best would be through rotc which still gives you a full ride for school as far as tuition is concerned. Like they were saying earlier in this thread. there are very few enlisted guys that get selected for ocs let alone flight school. Recruiters will tell you anything to get you to signup. My vote would be either a service academy or rotc. If you want to know any more just pm me. BTW my dad is a pilot. flew f-14s and f-18s. So again pm me if you have anymore questions
04-12-2007, 11:44 PM
LT Malice I have some gouge but any additional would be a welcome addition.
04-16-2007, 03:29 PM
alright new question. im going to get my 4 year degree first. what degree would be best to become a pilot for the navy. or do u just need any 4 year degree?
04-16-2007, 08:31 PM
any four year degree. it doesnt matter. To give you an idea. The pilot who flys the number one jet in the Blue Angels has an english degree. So any 4 year degree.
04-17-2007, 06:59 PM
My degree is in Resource Mgmt. My advice is get a degree in something that is marketable once you get out and that you enjoy doing since the type of degree has no bearing on being a pilot. The only thing is do as well as you can because they will look at your GPA. I had a 3.79 and I know that definitely helped in the selection process.
04-17-2007, 07:51 PM
04-25-2007, 11:02 PM
i agree with scrappy, get a degree you can use in the civilian world, it wouldn't hurt if i applied a little to the navy. i'm not staying navy, but im getting a computer degree and plan on tryign to fly Apaches. i know a guy who is going into STA-21, everyone told him that making E-5 would help his chances on getting in. do your job well and try to stand out, that should really help you get noticed.