where should a clutch start engaging?
04-29-2007, 11:04 AM
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where should a clutch start engaging? what's up all? i just put a new clutch, flywheel, and slave in my car yesterday. i bled it and everything and the clutch works fine. the only problem i'm having is that it seems to start grabbing way low in the pedal. i'm just wondering where the normal engagement should be? the clutch isn't dragging as did the put it in gear with brake off test and it was fine. my buddy says it feels fine to him. maybe i'm just used to a worn out clutch grabbing at the top of the pedal. any help would be appreciated.
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04-29-2007, 08:06 PM
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i'm already starting to get used to it. it just feels so much different from the spec clutches i've had in the past. so low engagement is probably a good thing, since as the clutch wears, the pedal will move up....right?
04-29-2007, 08:33 PM
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When I replaced my clutch, flywheel and slave it was the same way. It is normal to engage when the pedal is low. When a clutch is very worn the pedal will be higher before the clutch engages.
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04-29-2007, 09:12 PM
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I'll just share my situation...
Stock, it engaged around the half way point.
LS7 clutch, LS2 flywheel, 01-02 slave cylinder.
When first installed, it grabbed off the floor, about maybe an inch. As I drove it around, it moved to just below the half way point for engagement.
01-02 master with drill mod
Engagement is now around the 70% released mark. I've had to get used to a higher engagement point, but I think in the long run it's good. I think as long as you get "full" disengagement, you are ok, but I feel the higher release is actually better because that means, early in the clutch pedal travel it's disengaged rather than later in the travel. I think in situations where you are "lazy" and don't move the clutch foot quick enough to the floor you before you shift, it's ok. In a low engaging clutch, it's a low disengaging throw and you have to make sure you have it pressed to the floor before shifting.
Stock, it engaged around the half way point.
LS7 clutch, LS2 flywheel, 01-02 slave cylinder.
When first installed, it grabbed off the floor, about maybe an inch. As I drove it around, it moved to just below the half way point for engagement.
01-02 master with drill mod
Engagement is now around the 70% released mark. I've had to get used to a higher engagement point, but I think in the long run it's good. I think as long as you get "full" disengagement, you are ok, but I feel the higher release is actually better because that means, early in the clutch pedal travel it's disengaged rather than later in the travel. I think in situations where you are "lazy" and don't move the clutch foot quick enough to the floor you before you shift, it's ok. In a low engaging clutch, it's a low disengaging throw and you have to make sure you have it pressed to the floor before shifting.
05-01-2007, 12:03 AM
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yeh, it seems like it's gettin better as i drive. i don't know if i'm just getting used to it, or the pedal and moved up due to tiny air bubbles in the line working their way out. i'm thinking it probably a little bit of both....either way, i love my car again.
05-03-2007, 09:58 AM
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Dal1as, As a clutch wears the engagement point will raise. Conversely, the symptoms that you describe in reference to air in the lines are actually different. As fluid aerates, air (in the form of bubbles) displaces fluid leading the inconsistent pedal. The actual cause of the pedal going to the floor is related to the inability of the hydraulic assembly to maintain pressure. Without pressure, the pedal will not kick-back (return to its normal position). This is a very basic explanation but I hope it helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks,
05-03-2007, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SPEC-01
Dal1as, As a clutch wears the engagement point will raise. Conversely, the symptoms that you describe in reference to air in the lines are actually different. As fluid aerates, air (in the form of bubbles) displaces fluid leading the inconsistent pedal. The actual cause of the pedal going to the floor is related to the inability of the hydraulic assembly to maintain pressure. Without pressure, the pedal will not kick-back (return to its normal position). This is a very basic explanation but I hope it helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Thanks,
Learn something new everyday. Now that I think about it I had the hydraulic process backwards in my head. When you press the pedal the clutch disengages. Looks like I may want to re-adjust my master to where the engagement point is lower now.
05-04-2007, 09:30 AM
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That is a better understanding...I am glad I could be of assistance. Let me know if you need anything further. Have a great weekend and keep us posted in terms of the changes you notice after the adjustment. Thanks,
05-16-2007, 02:23 AM
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Spec 01 I have recently installed a 3+ on my car. It has been installed by my cousin who has installed many before. Anyway my engagement is high and very slim. I guess If you are powershifting this is better because you dont have to depress the clutch more than neccesary. But at the same time is this normal? , or is it adjustable? Factory hydraulics just broke it in any comments?
