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Old 05-26-2007, 01:06 PM
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The title is my objective for my H/C swap. Here's what I'm thinking:

TEA TFS LS1 heads(pushrods included)
Cam(undecided, something with way too much torque )

Caddy lifters
HS non-adj 1.7 rockers
LS6 oil pump
Double roller chain
ARP 12-pt head studs
ARP balancer bolt
EGR blockoff plates
Front cover seal
Front main seal
.040" gasket


Does this setup look good?

EDIT- motor is stock bore and I have an M6. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by 3.4camaro
The title is my objective for my H/C swap. Here's what I'm thinking:

TEA TFS LS1 heads(pushrods included)
Cam(undecided, something with way too much torque )

Caddy lifters
HS non-adj 1.7 rockers
LS6 oil pump
Double roller chain
ARP 12-pt head studs
ARP balancer bolt
EGR blockoff plates
Front cover seal
Front main seal
.040" gasket

Does this setup look good?

EDIT- motor is stock bore and I have an M6. Thanks in advance.
Without having made your cam choice, its hard to say. Depending on the duration & lift, the gasket choice (thickness) cant be made in advance, and pushrods might vary too.

The double roller chain might be a tight fit with your oil pump, I personally choce to run a heavy duty chain over the double roller.

Are you swapping pulleys out at the same time?

Also, whats wrong with your stock rockers?
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Are you gonna have TEA mill the heads for you? Keep that in mind when you start to nail down your cam selection.

TEA, I'm sure, will want all this type of info from you.

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Without having made your cam choice, its hard to say. Depending on the duration & lift, the gasket choice (thickness) cant be made in advance, and pushrods might vary too.

The double roller chain might be a tight fit with your oil pump, I personally choce to run a heavy duty chain over the double roller.

Are you swapping pulleys out at the same time?

Also, whats wrong with your stock rockers?
TEA includes pushrods when you buy the heads. I think they should get me setup right. They also recommend switching over to rockers with a roller tip due to the change in valve angle.
Should I change out the pulley while I'm down there?

Are you gonna have TEA mill the heads for you? Keep that in mind when you start to nail down your cam selection.

TEA, I'm sure, will want all this type of info from you.

R/

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I will probably end up with TFS's biggest cam they offer, the 228/230. I'm pretty sure I'll be alright as far as PTV clearance goes. TEA will mill the heads.


THANKS FOR THE INPUT!
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I'd say to replace the pulley at this time, since it has to come off for the cam swap anyway.

As for the rest:

Check your PTV clearance reguardless!
It would probably also be a good idea to buy a pushrod length checker also.

Do those two things (pulley optional), and you'll be doing things once and doing it right.
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Best of luck on the build.

I agree...check your PTVC.

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Thanks for all the help guys. I reall appriciate it.

One more question. Will I be able to get by for a while without switching injectors?
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Are you running the stock injectors? You should be able to get by as long as you dont smash the loud peddle until you get her tuned. You would need to log your injector duty cycle to see how maxed your injectors are. You want to stay below 85%. If you change to a higher rated injector be sure to let your tuner know so he can change your injector flow rate table to reflect the higher rated squirters.

Do you have your own tuning solution (EFIlive or HPTuners) or are you gonna pay a shop to do it?

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I have stock injectors. The nitrous section said they are good to 360hp safely, so I was a little worried. I am planning on getting HPTuners.

and I'll hook up my horn to my brakes, so I can have a different loud pedal!
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Originally Posted by 3.4camaro
Thanks for all the help guys. I reall appriciate it.

One more question. Will I be able to get by for a while without switching injectors?
"Doing it once and doing it right" = buy injectors

You're buying a set of $2400 heads, what's another $150-200 for injectors? They would be way over 100+% duty cycle.
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Figure out all you are gonna do to the car (cam size, intake, ect) and get yourself some injectors to support your mods. Sponsors can help you out.

Which intake are you going to go with? I did not see that in your list. Oh....if you hook your horn to the brakes...I wanna see the vid

Also, look here for your cam, if you want to go the custom route.

http://guerragroup.com/camshaft_help.htm

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The intake will not be addressed at this time, and I clearly understand it will be a huge restrictions. I'm simply unable to drop another grand on a Fast90 setup at the moment. I just graduated high school and work at a pizza place lol.

Again, back to the title of the thread. I could drop 300 for a LS6 intake, but I would be leaving power on the table for no reason other than I wanted it now, and that would bug me. Do it once and do it right.

But when I get the fast90 it'll be ported and painted(flat black )and wonderful

I will talk to the boys at TEA and see what they suggest for a low end torque monster.

EDIT- little story.

My auto tech instructor was at one point a master tech at a dealer, mainly electrical stuff.
His neighbor's car went out and he took it up to the dealer for service. My instructor fixed the car and wired up the brakes to the horn with a switch. The car was all fixed.
Then one day my instructor called the neighbors wife and asked her to pop the hood. "now look on the driver's side headlight. there should be a switch there. flip it."
The next 3 days his neighbor was driving with the horn and brakes wired together.

Good times.




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