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Water vs. Antifreeze vs. Water+Water Wetter

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Old 07-11-2007, 04:31 PM
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Now I got in a argument with someone the other day about this. Does any have experience with testing the temps on these? I live in the desert, so if below freezing temps are not a problem, what runs the coolest?

On the back of the redline water wetter bottle it says that straight water, cools better the 50/50 antifreeze. And of course water with water wetter cools the best. I wanted to run about 15% Antifreeze, a bottle of water wetter, and the rest water. Anyone care to comment on this?
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I do believe that water is most effective when cooling an engine.But I dont have volumes of technical knowledge,to break it all down.I just know there are reasons why we use antifreeze
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MY .2 cents is that anti freeze has a lower freezing temp then water(-34f) , cooling i dont believe it does anything different then water
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Water should cool the best, but the antifreeze does just that...keeps the coolant from freezing. I think it also has some lubricating properties for the water pump, but I honestly don't know on that one.
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Originally Posted by six_string_wiz
I do believe that water is most effective when cooling an engine.But I dont have volumes of technical knowledge,to break it all down.I just know there are reasons why we use antifreeze
From what I have been told by numerous engine builders is water cools the best, anti freeze does just that and helps keep buidup and rust to a minimum.
Water Wetter helps in that area too. I like distilled water and water wetter in both my cars and truck.
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Look at evanscooling.com and do some reading its some good stuff. Its the best coolant ive ever used. The government uses it, military, ECT. Its about 30.00 a gal. Its a waterless coolant.. Its better than anything you have listed. Boone.
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Originally Posted by BOONE
Look at evanscooling.com and do some reading its some good stuff. Its the best coolant ive ever used. The government uses it, military, ECT. Its about 30.00 a gal. Its a waterless coolant.. Its better than anything you have listed. Boone.
$30 a gallon - Why would anybody **** away that type of money?
If Im doing the mathe correctly thats $90-$120, to fill the entire system?
How is that better Boone?
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Originally Posted by BOONE
Look at evanscooling.com and do some reading its some good stuff. Its the best coolant ive ever used. The government uses it, military, ECT. Its about 30.00 a gal. Its a waterless coolant.. Its better than anything you have listed. Boone.

Do you run your radiator full of it? Does it keep that thing ice cold, or do your fans still kick on all the time?
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If you have a cooling problem it just fits into the equation with the other stuff. When I am hard on my car I want it to cool and stay cool and we are talking what is the best if I'm not mistaken, not pretty close, or pretty good. 30.00 is not much money to stay cool especially when its a permanent coolant. Staying cool is not just pissing away money and 30.00 dollars is not ****.
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Anti-freeze serves two purposes....

1)Lowers the freezing point
2)Has corrosion inhibitors to keep rust from forming and also lubricates

If you're looking for pure cooling efficiency, anti-freeze is worse than straight water. I personally run close to 50/50 water/antrifreeze and toss in a bottle of water wetter as well. Water-wetter also has some anti-corrosive properties to it.

What percentage of anti-freeze is enough to prevent corrosion and adequately lubricate the system? That I don't know.
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A few gallons of water and water wetter ($20) its hard to get any of my engines past 200-210. Thats in this Arizona 115 degree heat, and I must admit Im hard on my engines. If I run any cooler than that I honestly would be worried. $30 a gallon? times 4 gallons to fill system equals $120 plus tax and shipping. They claim a 500,000 life cycle. That may be true(which I doubt) I cant see running anything in my system for that long or even 100,000 miles. JMHO
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50/50 Distilled water + Water wetter here in AZ (hell) also!
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Originally Posted by jmajorboner
Do you run your radiator full of it? Does it keep that thing ice cold, or do your fans still kick on all the time?
It is waterless meaning you run only it, and yes my fans kick on a lot at least in traffic. I had a cooling problem after the Procharger and heads and cam build. I got a 600.00 radiator a 400.00 fan and shroud kit and yes it still gets hot if I hit it real hard over and over. To me hot is 220 or so as I like to run in the power zone, not engine damaging hot. The only thing I have seen better than mine is the lg radiator I think it was. It ran so cold we had to block off part of it. I did not discover this radiator till after I bought mine. Mine does run very cool on the street when not hitting it, like 160 to 170. So I guess my range is 160 to 180 but when I abuse it bad it will hit 220 if its hot out. Before the Evans this was not possible even with all the other stuff I have. With my car water wetter and distilled water and reg anti freeze = coming home after a few miles with a boiling car and or stopping to cool down first then coming home. And always having to carry some with me.
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I used water wetter and distilled with anti freeze for many years in all my race bikes/cars ECT. Until I discovered something better.
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the less antifreeze you put in the ratio with water, the better the cooling is. if you are in desert and rarely face freezing temps you should use much less antifreeze. I personally have about a 80/20 ratio of distilled to dexcool and a bottle of water wetter in it. My temps went down by 10-15 deg when i switched from the 50/50 mix.
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antifreeze is best for rust prevention. some car show did an experiment a while back. put identical bolts into jars containing water, straight antifreeze, and 50/50 mix. after a day the only one that wasnt completely rusted was the 50/50. the bolt was brand new. you might be cooling more with water, but youre rusting up your waterpump and who knows what else.
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I run straight water with water pump lubricant in my 2nd gen. The car has a mechanical water pump.
I live in south florida and never have a problem.
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The thermal transfer properties of glycol are why it is used in refrigeration systems. And all a refrigeration system does is pick up heat, run it through an evaporator/radiator and a fan blows off the heat. Glycol gives up heat easily. So I am a little skeptical about straight water being better.
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it is a known fact that water cools better. antifreeze is only used for rust prevention and ANTI-FREEZING qualities. your best option is 90% water and 10% antifreeze.
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Originally Posted by EchoMirage
antifreeze is best for rust prevention. some car show did an experiment a while back. put identical bolts into jars containing water, straight antifreeze, and 50/50 mix. after a day the only one that wasnt completely rusted was the 50/50. the bolt was brand new. you might be cooling more with water, but youre rusting up your waterpump and who knows what else.
Even the straight antifreeze rusted? That's strange.


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