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Old 08-27-2007, 09:06 PM
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Hey guys I have a question about underdrive pulleys through all of my searches i've come to the conclusion that after the install your only charging the battery @ 950 rpm what about if my idle is lower than 950 in gear will it not charge unless im above 950RPM.. is this acurate?
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With the cam driven WP UD pullies have relatively little to offer in power to the wheels. If you are reving vwery high or are road racing are the only ways I would consider them and in either of those cases an underdrive quality damper like the ATI would be a MUCH better solution.

So do yourself a favor and pick a worthwhile mod.
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To answer the question that was asked:
Yes, the alternator will not keep up. If you use an underdrive pulley on the crank, you should run an overdrive pulley on the alternator.
I run an underdrive pulley. I was sitting in line at the strip while they cleaned up a broken car. My battery died. I then installed the overdrive pulley on the alternator, and have not had an issue since.
The underdrive pulley will move everything else slower, your power steering and a/c for example.
Are the gains worth the expense? That is your call.
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Like ordering at KFC "two piece"

We had this conversation mark, you dont gain much over all HP but the averag HP gained is 5 give or take.
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Default yeah i think ill just wait

I guess I wont be getting this I don't really rev my car that high to matter Ill just wait for a good deal on some headers and y pipe and the 1.6ers ( and springs)
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MAKE UP YOUR ******* MIND *******!!! You allways do that, i swear, your like a woman, cant make up your mind. ******* give the car to me and ill handle it, ride your bike!
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zone, settle down.
This is what I call free horsepower. The car is not any louder, it does not idle any differently, and it is always there. The only down side is that it takes a little more oomph to turn in a parking lot.
Is it worth it? That is always up to you.
And zone, if the car is to be given away, let him give it to me. I still have a couple of spaces in my driveway.
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He is my friend, so he would have to give it to me, if i dont wan it i will give it to you
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Let me send you the address of my nephew-in-law, he is a car nut also, and lives down in the hell hole that is Texas.
LOL.
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Originally Posted by koolaid_kid
the hell hole that is Texas.
LOL.
Hell......the devil complains about the heat here...
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yall aint been to middle/south georgia any time lately..texas is hot as hell no doubt..georgia is like hell that just put in a sauna
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
MAKE UP YOUR ******* MIND *******!!! You allways do that, i swear, your like a woman, cant make up your mind. ******* give the car to me and ill handle it, ride your bike!
Well I would never give you my car, you are funny though
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Originally Posted by Fbodynightmare
Well I would never give you my car, you are funny though
I would never take your car, automatics suck.
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Spend ur money on something else. It's only worth a few HP, and if u wanting better track times, it don't take long to just remove the belt for a pass or two and then throw it back on.
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Originally Posted by koolaid_kid
To answer the question that was asked:
Yes, the alternator will not keep up. If you use an underdrive pulley on the crank, you should run an overdrive pulley on the alternator.
I run an underdrive pulley. I was sitting in line at the strip while they cleaned up a broken car. My battery died. I then installed the overdrive pulley on the alternator, and have not had an issue since.
The underdrive pulley will move everything else slower, your power steering and a/c for example.
Are the gains worth the expense? That is your call.
about this overdrive pulley for the alternator.. how much are they and where can i get one?
I have a underdrive pully on the crank and my battery dies quickly(new battery)
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Not sure, mine came as a pair. Best of luck.
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I have a UD pulley on my car and my battery is fine. Never had one single issue sitting and idling for extended periods either.
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Originally Posted by Scrapin'4.8
Spend ur money on something else. It's only worth a few HP, and if u wanting better track times, it don't take long to just remove the belt for a pass or two and then throw it back on.
Thanks for the input but this little slow bolton wont see the track until it gets something better under the hood, I am only looking for a little more power in my DD
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Just do all the bolt ons, every bit counts, the more power you make the more you will see out of it.
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Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Just do all the bolt ons, every bit counts, the more power you make the more you will see out of it.
Stupidity like this is why there are so many SLOW modded f-bodies out there.

Think things through and spend money where it counts, ask how and why and try and understand the processes involved, that is what can make you fast especially with a limited budget like most of us have.

Look at my car, stock balancer, stock wp, stock timing chain, these things are not replaced because the WORK. The kids on these boards will have you buying crap just because someone sells it without putting any real thought into the hows and whys.

I will say that at some point I will have a nice ATI underdrive damper, but the real goal there will be the nice ATI damper, the UD will just be an afterthought. I might pickup an electric WP to slap on in fall for a little extra nudge in the good weather, I will not DD one though due to the failure mode of them.

Another thing to consider is most of these guys are not bright enough to understand a cammed car may not need a OD alternator pulley where a stock car probably would benifit from one. There is the source of conflicting info on that.


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