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Old 06-23-2003, 10:03 PM
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Default Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

Is an x-pipe a must when making a dual exhaust system? I'm about to put on my bullet muffler, but I was thinking about just getting another one, cutting the cats and bolting them on after the ORP's. No y-pipe or anything, just two short pipes coming off the manifolds then two bullets with turndowns. Would not having an x hurt that much, or would the seperate duals be a good system? TIA
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I don't think it will hurt anything. It may resonate to all hell.
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You can go with no crossing pipes... you can also use an H-pipe... but an X-pipe is pretty much regarded as the best way to do it.
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Aren't the gains higher with an X-pipe?
Old 06-25-2003, 02:09 AM
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

TTT, id like to know as well.
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Aren't the gains higher with an X-pipe?
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

i'm running that same setup except with sweet thunders from what i hear the x-pipe is a good idea but i still get great performance. ask the 03 cobra i beat if i need an x-pipe
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

i'm running that same setup except with sweet thunders from what i hear the x-pipe is a good idea but i still get great performance. ask the 03 cobra i beat if i need an x-pipe
Any issues with ground clearence? How far back are the mufflers? Oh, and nice kill on the '03 Cobra
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Aren't the gains higher with an X-pipe?
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I don't have any problems with ground clearance i have the pipes coming out of the sides with 3" tips and still have 4" of clearance with stock suspension
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I would run dual with an X pipe, you should pick up a few hp over the y pipe. I forget is the TA's have 2" or 2 1/2" exhaust? I know us guys with vetts like the sound of the X pipe over the H, and the x pipe picks up a few more hp.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I don't have any problems with ground clearance i have the pipes coming out of the sides with 3" tips and still have 4" of clearance with stock suspension
How big are the mufflers? I would be using Dynomax bullets and I am concerned that if I put them parellel to the ground after the cats they will scrape the ground (ex pulling into a driveway...) Has anyone done this?? BTW ZEROFactix, I'd love to see some pics of the side exhaust if you have any.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I would run dual with an X pipe, you should pick up a few hp over the y pipe. I forget is the TA's have 2" or 2 1/2" exhaust? I know us guys with vetts like the sound of the X pipe over the H, and the x pipe picks up a few more hp.
I have 2.75" pipe. In this case, I'd be looking at an H or nothing. I guess H would be better in that case.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

The X Pipe is the best way to go by far. Second is the H Pipe. Then true duals with no x or h pipe.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

If I remember correctly, the purpose of the x pipe is for better exhaust scavenging over an h pipe and the difference in sound and ground clearance are only secondary reasons... if I'm wrong, don't hesitate to correct me.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I have a don't have a digital camera but i took some normal pics today so i should have them up in a few days will let you know.
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

I have the true duals - no X or H pipe. All 3". 8" long pipe from header to a billet muffler to a turn down. Haven't scraped yet. But I also don't run it around town any more. The cops would love that.

I did ask a couple of people - to include Paul from Thunder Racing - they argree that I would gain only 3-5 rwhp by adding an X pipe.

I tried the X pipe but was a PIA with the drive-shaft loop.

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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

Thanks, David. That's exactly what I wanted to know.
I was also kind of thinking of running pipes out to the sides of the car, then making a kind of Bullet sidepipe with a turndown after it, all on the side of the car. Might do that, but I'm glad to know that original idea would probably work.
Thanks again, bro
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Default Re: Dual exhaust, no x-pipe??

Thats an interesting idea Nighthawk, I never considered not using a X pipe at all. It would be a lot less trouble and less expensive too. Do you still plan on doing this on stock manifolds? If you do I would definitely be interested in seeing some pics. I am looking for ideas because Im in the market for Duals too.



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