Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Vacuum line routing ?'s

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-22-2008, 10:42 PM
  #1  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default Vacuum line routing ?'s

I have looked through the stickied thread but still have a few questions. I have a JGS 54mm bov, and a JGS 50mm Wastegate. The bov has one port on top, the gate has 2 on the side.

I plan to use a manual boost controller, but for now I just want to run on the gate spring, should I just run intake vacuum to the bottome port on the gate, and vent the top to atmosphere? Then when I hook up the boost controller, run the top port to the controller?

Second, is it normal for the BOV to be open about an inch at idle? it still builds boost, but just didn't seem right.

Thanks
Chris
Old 06-23-2008, 04:10 AM
  #2  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (22)
 
SStolen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Louisville, Ky
Posts: 1,621
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

I don't want to say for sure b/c stuff that doesn't make sense happens... but, the BOV should be 100% closed at all times. If not, air that should be boosting into the engine will be escaping out of the BOV. It should be fully closed under WOT to let air flow into the engine and then open after WOT to release trapped air from between the turbo and TB.

On the Wastegate, again I don't know because the wastegates i've used have always had one top port and one side port but I would guess that the higher side port would be your 'top' port. For now with the manual boost controller, just run the boost source to the lower port of the wastegate. In the future, yes, run the electronic boost controller solenoid to the top-side port.

Last edited by SStolen; 06-23-2008 at 09:43 PM.
Old 06-23-2008, 09:39 PM
  #3  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Okay, got the wastegate figured out, but I took a closer look at the Bov and it is staying open all the time. I revved it up from the tb and watched it and it never moved, but when I pinched the vacuum line a little it went down. Do I need a stronger spring in the bov?
Old 06-23-2008, 09:45 PM
  #4  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (64)
 
red83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: sneaking in your back door as you leave!/cartersville ga
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

the wastegate uses the bottom port (closest to the v-band flange) the top port is for c02


the reason the blow-off is staying open is because you are building more vacuum than what the spring is rated for. yes a stiffer spring will work. but as soon as your at 0 vacuum it should be shut
Old 06-23-2008, 10:01 PM
  #5  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
dredoggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

is the bov closed when the car is off? if so then you should put a bigger spring in it sounds like the vacuum is over powering the spring you have now. like red said
Old 06-23-2008, 10:26 PM
  #6  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Yeah, it shuts when the car is off, or even just pinching off the vacuum line. I have about 15lbs of vacuum at idle. I figured it would close when I got on it, but wouldn't that make it take longer for boost to build up? How do you figure out what spring to go with?
Old 06-23-2008, 10:30 PM
  #7  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (64)
 
red83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: sneaking in your back door as you leave!/cartersville ga
Posts: 908
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

i have a 15lb in mine, but i am only pulling 6 to 8lbs at idle. double the springs up. dont stack them. one should fit inside the other
Old 06-23-2008, 10:35 PM
  #8  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

hmmm okay, I will call the turbo shop tomorrow. Is it a matter of trial and error, or should I buy a spring the same pressure as my boost idle?
Old 07-05-2008, 09:57 PM
  #9  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
dredoggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

fixed yet?
Old 07-06-2008, 11:45 AM
  #10  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Yeah I actually added another small spring to the exsisting bov spring. Works almost flawlessly, opens about an 1/8'' at idle and shuts as soon as you touch the throttle. Wastegate seems to be working okay, I referenced it off the turbo housing. It is hits 7psi right off the spool but tapers down to about 5 or 6. Not sure if that is normal or not.
Old 07-06-2008, 01:35 PM
  #11  
Launching!
iTrader: (63)
 
Subliminal Hit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

what springs are those? not the BOV spring--the lowering springs...DMS?
Old 07-06-2008, 09:44 PM
  #12  
On The Tree
Thread Starter
iTrader: (14)
 
Frostbite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Lol they are stock springs heated up....
Old 07-07-2008, 08:10 PM
  #13  
On The Tree
iTrader: (2)
 
dredoggy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Frostbite
It is hits 7psi right off the spool but tapers down to about 5 or 6. Not sure if that is normal or not.
yea mine does that to not sure if i have to crank it up a couple more clicks
its tuned for 8# but i hit 7# and some times it stays at 7# and some times it drops to 5#? any one know what that might be?



Quick Reply: Vacuum line routing ?'s



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:22 PM.