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Old 07-25-2008, 08:54 AM
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Does anyone know of a good MAP based methanol kit? All the kits I have seen so far are MAF based one. My MAF fell off and I can not find it

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Old 07-25-2008, 08:56 AM
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Snow performance does offer one of their kits that runs off of the map and not the maf. Ill try to find the part # for you.

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http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/

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Alkycontrol blows the rest away in quality and support, and comes with a GM MAP sensor. Julio is the man, and will pick up the phone whenever you need to help. I use this kit and I recommend it regularly.
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Alky control here also. They've went out of their way with me and my 2nd hand kit.
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Agree Alky Control is the best.
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LOL! Maybe you ran over the MAF?
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I like my AIS kit... I had everything mounted and wired in like 45 minutes... Very simple and organized....
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here is a better answer.

there are SEVERAL good map triggered meth systems out there for you. snow, alkycontrol, ais, devils own, cooling mist etc. Google "Alcohol Injection" and pick the one that fits your other needs wether its price point, pressure, capacity, installation, fuel compatibility, warranty blah blah blah

i think some people misunderstood this thread as being a 'post what alky kit you own' thread
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Originally Posted by MIGHTYMOUSE
here is a better answer.

there are SEVERAL good map triggered meth systems out there for you. snow, alkycontrol, ais, devils own, cooling mist etc. Google "Alcohol Injection" and pick the one that fits your other needs wether its price point, pressure, capacity, installation, fuel compatibility, warranty blah blah blah

i think some people misunderstood this thread as being a 'post what alky kit you own' thread
Yep - what he said...

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Love my alkycontrol and the support Julio gives me..Jeremy
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Alky control is all i reccomend anymore since Julios kits are designed for methanol and do not include cheap push lok hose for the pressure side. This is a fire hazard in its-self.

The alky control kit uses the stock washer tank and provides a low level sensor to wire in for a led. It also has a turn on led to let you know when its hitting. The box is easy to wire in and adjust for tuning purposes. As you can see people have exelent results with this unit.
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Originally Posted by Jake@EPP
Alky control is all i reccomend anymore since Julios kits are designed for methanol and do not include cheap push lok hose for the pressure side. This is a fire hazard in its-self.
Have you ever used push to connect fittings? If you have you would know how absurd this statement is. They are used in tons of applications with ethanol and methanol. maximum working pressure is 250 to 299psi with nylon tubing, I would hardly call that a fire hazard.

Oh, and these same fittings are also used for working pressures of 299PSI with SULFURIC ACID. a little more dangerous of a substance than windshield washer fluid, I'd say.
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Originally Posted by 1BadAction
Have you ever used push to connect fittings? If you have you would know how absurd this statement is. They are used in tons of applications with ethanol and methanol. maximum working pressure is 250 to 299psi with nylon tubing, I would hardly call that a fire hazard.

Oh, and these same fittings are also used for working pressures of 299PSI with SULFURIC ACID. a little more dangerous of a substance than windshield washer fluid, I'd say.
When you use teflon lined braided -4 hose, theres no going back. Nothing against pushlok (Legris) hose, but i would not trust it with methanol. Possibly if it was on a summer only driven car, but some guys drive cars when its cold. Not my cup of tea, and i will not recommend it.

And there are 2 diffrent kits i know of that use it, one uses a red hose which looks a bit safer, the other uses a plane jane plastic hose that i would only use to plumb boost lines with.

Windshield washer fluid is only 30-40% by vol, we only use 100% pure methanol for tuning purposes.
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-20*C low range for nylon tubing, 80*C high range. max working pressure is 250psi at its hottest recommended temp.

Its all in your head, people in industrial applications trust this stuff with much nastier chemicals than even pure meth, 24/7, 365. Even tho its not my style, I'll not try and debate the bling factor of -4. It does work well and look neat.

Its really a non-issue, any of the kits can have this added for a few bucks more, if someone is so inclined.
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Originally Posted by 1BadAction
-20*C low range for nylon tubing, 80*C high range. max working pressure is 250psi at its hottest recommended temp.

Its all in your head, people in industrial applications trust this stuff with much nastier chemicals than even pure meth, 24/7, 365. Even tho its not my style, I'll not try and debate the bling factor of -4. It does work well and look neat.

Its really a non-issue, any of the kits can have this added for a few bucks more, if someone is so inclined.


Say what you want, I have seen the lines come loose on more than one vehicle so I don't trust it either. Couple that with the fact that pump included with that kit is the same one that Alkycontrol uses, but they take them apart and replace seals and some other parts. I know of several people with that other kit who had their pumps fail as well, so there is more than one reason.
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Check out FJORacing's alky controller and kits, if you are into tuning (or have someone who is). That's what I got and it is completely programmable by TPS, MAP, wideband input and a couple other tricks. I like their technique of having the alcohol pump on and using an alky-solenoid and PWM to control the alky spray.

If you aren't into a lot of tweaking, then the Alky Control kit seems to win hands down.

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It has an adjustable turn on point, initial volume setting, and ramp rate vs. boost, so it's not inflexible.



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