CAMJAG

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Would the correct way to apply these the sealant first, then the wax?

Say take Meguiars Tech Wax 2.0 then go over it with a carnauba wax?

Mr. Luos

iTrader: (9)

Pick one.

Otherwise, you are wasting the second step. It probably won't adhere.

CAMJAG

iTrader: (34)

I have been reading up on that and read that you can do a sealant first then top it off with carnauba on autogeek.net

Mr. Luos

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I suppose it depends on the products.
Interesting.


I will be paying attention to this thread.

AnTTi Venom

From what I understand you can apply a sealant and then use your polish/wax of choice on top of it.

MrPongoSS

You can do a Polymer Sealant, then a Carnuba Wax, but keep in mind, it is time-consuming and there are a few products your really can't use. But, the results are excellent, if you have the patience. You'll get the best of both worlds.... a high shine and protection, and a deep, "wet" gloss look.

-After polish, use a pure polymer sealant. Examples of this are Meguiar's No. 20 and 21 Polymer Sealants, Menzerna FMJ, Blackfire Wet Diamond Sealant. DO NOT USE MEQUIAR'S GOLD CLASS, NO. 26, OR NXT OR ANY MOTHER'S WAX PRODUCT.... these have slight abrasives in them and they do have some carnuba content. Aplly over entire car and then let sit for at least 12 hours... this will give the sealant a chance to cure.
-Apply a carnuba wax over entire car. P21S, Pinnacle Souveran, Blackfire Midnight Sun, or the expensive Zymol waxes (not the cleaner wax), would work the best and give the best look.

You can layer another coat of carnuba wax ofter 8-12 hours to give a deeper gloss.

chupr0kabra

iTrader: (10)

MrPongoSS is correct, especially the part about cleaner waxes. As the name implies, a cleaner wax helps clean the surface it's adhering to, so it would take off some (if not all) of the sealant.

I've started using Tropi-Care's paste wax over their sealant with very good results. It gives some extra depth and gloss to the shine.


-Mike

CAMJAG

iTrader: (34)

I have heard great things about Pinnacle Souveran! For the P21S they make 2versions. P21S 100% carnauba, and P21S concours carnauba. Which one?

Mr. Luos

iTrader: (9)

I love me a true concours wax.

I use Victoria's concour red.

EsCrasston

iTrader: (1)

caranuba wax over a synthetic sealant. many people use it.
i use Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 then top it with Poorboy's Natty's Blue

wannafbody

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Unless you have a showcar just stick with a sealant. Waxes degrade in the sun and heat. Any Zaino sealant and Z8 will look killer.

MrPongoSS

Either one will do the job. Both are great waxes and very easy to use.

98 WS6

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Do you guys put wax over Zaino? I just put a coat of zaino on today and plan on doing more tomorrow. Should I apply wax after that or no?

wannafbody

iTrader: (2)

Absolutely not, Top with Z8 and then get a microfiber towel to wipe the drool off your car

98 WS6

iTrader: (20)

I don't remember what Z8 is, but I know I don't have it

AnTTi Venom

The grand finale spray... basically the uber awesome detail spray that's $20 a bottle

98 WS6

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Damn. I'm sad now

Slvr00Bird

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I just use Z2 for the polish, and then Z-CS. Washed it today after a couple of weeks since the application and it's still beading awesome and feels great. Also washed super easy.

Just got some Z5 the other day to try and make everything perfect and try on some of my fam. members cars but won't be applying it to mine for quite some time due to the recent application of said others.

I'd like to try the Z6 for between layers of polish and then Z8 to top it off but definitely don't want to drop that much cash.

hot black trans-am

Pinnacle Souveran liquid over Wolfgang Deep Gloss Sealant for me. Works great.

MrPongoSS

I like Blackfire Wet Diamond and then Pinnacle Souveran. On darker colors, that seems to be the look to beat. P21S over Meguiar's No.21 is great on metallics. I haven't tried the Blackfire Midnight Sun, but I have heard great things about it.