Help me match an off the shelf cam to the converter I want to use...
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Help me match an off the shelf cam to the converter I want to use...
Off the shelf common cam.
2500-2700 stall speed, 3.23 gear.
Any advice, doing a budget build.
Thanks in advance.
2500-2700 stall speed, 3.23 gear.
Any advice, doing a budget build.
Thanks in advance.
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Stock cam would work well with that.
Let me guess, crappy 12" converter because you atre afraid of stall?
Was a time when I fit that description but once I went with a GOOD 2800 9.5" I was a believer, no problem handing the keys to anyone, passengers mistook it for stock at low speeds and throttle.
Frankly the stock cam benifits from more styall than that so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Let me guess, crappy 12" converter because you atre afraid of stall?
Was a time when I fit that description but once I went with a GOOD 2800 9.5" I was a believer, no problem handing the keys to anyone, passengers mistook it for stock at low speeds and throttle.
Frankly the stock cam benifits from more styall than that so you are barking up the wrong tree.
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Stock cam would work well with that.
Let me guess, crappy 12" converter because you atre afraid of stall?
Was a time when I fit that description but once I went with a GOOD 2800 9.5" I was a believer, no problem handing the keys to anyone, passengers mistook it for stock at low speeds and throttle.
Frankly the stock cam benifits from more styall than that so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Let me guess, crappy 12" converter because you atre afraid of stall?
Was a time when I fit that description but once I went with a GOOD 2800 9.5" I was a believer, no problem handing the keys to anyone, passengers mistook it for stock at low speeds and throttle.
Frankly the stock cam benifits from more styall than that so you are barking up the wrong tree.
Not afraid of a high stall .... Just don't want to spend $700 on a converter to put in a $4,000 car that is gonna end up running a mild cam.
Why should I stall up to near my peak power anyway?
2700rpm will work fine on the street and not blow out my 56K mile 9 year old transmission and Kumho cheap *** hard tires.
Why won't a 12 inch converter work with around 330rwhp and no spray?
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Not afraid of a high stall .... Just don't want to spend $700 on a converter to put in a $4,000 car that is gonna end up running a mild cam.
Why should I stall up to near my peak power anyway?
2700rpm will work fine on the street and not blow out my 56K mile 9 year old transmission and Kumho cheap *** hard tires.
Why won't a 12 inch converter work with around 330rwhp and no spray?
Why should I stall up to near my peak power anyway?
2700rpm will work fine on the street and not blow out my 56K mile 9 year old transmission and Kumho cheap *** hard tires.
Why won't a 12 inch converter work with around 330rwhp and no spray?
you will spend 230.00 on up on a cam,50.00 on gaskets,350.00 on a small stall,150.00 up on a tune...what mods are done now?
hedders?
exhaust?
cai?
gears?
you really need to do more research on combos that work effectively...
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so from first hand experience i will give you this.
i blew my head gasket awhile back and said why not throw a cam in while i have the motor somewhat apart. so i did, and yes i can feel a performance difference but not as much as you would expect from a cam. and yes the cam will end up costing you around the same, think you would be best off getting new rockers and springs atleast if you change the cam out and maybe a new set of lifters. thats 800 right there or more. i paid 300 for my custom grind cam with close to 200 for springs and lifters and about 150 for lifters. thats 750 total and thats just parts not even installation.
also if you dont have headers or a cai then i would reccomend getting those first as well, as im also running my car with exhaust manifolds and it really suffers top end form those
i blew my head gasket awhile back and said why not throw a cam in while i have the motor somewhat apart. so i did, and yes i can feel a performance difference but not as much as you would expect from a cam. and yes the cam will end up costing you around the same, think you would be best off getting new rockers and springs atleast if you change the cam out and maybe a new set of lifters. thats 800 right there or more. i paid 300 for my custom grind cam with close to 200 for springs and lifters and about 150 for lifters. thats 750 total and thats just parts not even installation.
also if you dont have headers or a cai then i would reccomend getting those first as well, as im also running my car with exhaust manifolds and it really suffers top end form those
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Not afraid of a high stall .... Just don't want to spend $700 on a converter to put in a $4,000 car that is gonna end up running a mild cam.
Why should I stall up to near my peak power anyway?
2700rpm will work fine on the street and not blow out my 56K mile 9 year old transmission and Kumho cheap *** hard tires.
Why won't a 12 inch converter work with around 330rwhp and no spray?
Why should I stall up to near my peak power anyway?
2700rpm will work fine on the street and not blow out my 56K mile 9 year old transmission and Kumho cheap *** hard tires.
Why won't a 12 inch converter work with around 330rwhp and no spray?
Looks like you wont listen then, have fun buying junk parts and having another slow lt1
Buy a Yank or vig stall, they are well worth the money
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2500-2700 with some 3.23's is a very tame setup but if thats what you want thats cool. With that setup your going to benefit more from a cam on the smaller side of the spectrum, LPE 211/219 and Crane 210/224 come to mind. Obviously a larger high quality stall (Yank etc.) would show some noticible gains over a 2500-2700 stall and allow you to run more cam but again if thats what you want then thats what you want.
FYI: Not sure what converter manufacturer your looking at but you can get a Yank 2800 for $500 or 3000 for $575 and atleast have a high quality converter unlike B&M and TCI ****.
FYI: Not sure what converter manufacturer your looking at but you can get a Yank 2800 for $500 or 3000 for $575 and atleast have a high quality converter unlike B&M and TCI ****.
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If your looking to go anywhere with a decent cam setup, I would highly reccomend getting a Vig 3200 or higher (3500 preferably). If the cam is going to stay small, then something 2800-3200 would be good.
I run a 3500 with the little hotcam and love it, great stall.
I run a 3500 with the little hotcam and love it, great stall.
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I have a Vig3200 on stock motor and still wish I would have went with a 3600. Btw the Vig has knock 5-6 tenths off my my ET. Besides nitrous what other mod can give you that much gain for $800 on an auto?
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Same, iam runnin a 3200 vig, and the best i've been able to do so far was knock 6 tenths off my ET before the stall.... By far the best 800 bucks i've spent on the car so far...
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yep, skip the cam install and get a GOOd Yank/Vigilante 2800-3600 stall. You will be happier and the car will be quicker.
If you still wnat a cam, the Crane 227 is a good choice for smooth idle, perfect drivabilty and a 5900 RPM shift point.
The Comp CC 503 is a good choice if you want a lil thumop at idle and wanna shift at 6100-6200 RPM or so.
Lloyd
If you still wnat a cam, the Crane 227 is a good choice for smooth idle, perfect drivabilty and a 5900 RPM shift point.
The Comp CC 503 is a good choice if you want a lil thumop at idle and wanna shift at 6100-6200 RPM or so.
Lloyd
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yep, skip the cam install and get a GOOd Yank/Vigilante 2800-3600 stall. You will be happier and the car will be quicker.
If you still wnat a cam, the Crane 227 is a good choice for smooth idle, perfect drivabilty and a 5900 RPM shift point.
The Comp CC 503 is a good choice if you want a lil thumop at idle and wanna shift at 6100-6200 RPM or so.
Lloyd
If you still wnat a cam, the Crane 227 is a good choice for smooth idle, perfect drivabilty and a 5900 RPM shift point.
The Comp CC 503 is a good choice if you want a lil thumop at idle and wanna shift at 6100-6200 RPM or so.
Lloyd
I'll second that. Converter and headers is all you need really.
If you want a small cam let me know cause I am getting ready to pull the Vig. 2800-3000 out of my car and would let it go pretty cheap...