1BAD06MCSS

Hey all! I am posting this because I have a serious case of someone talking **** all over my Monte. Here's the situation.... I have a guy that comes into my work all the time and he just recently acquired a 2001 Camaro Z/28 automatic. To my knowledge it is completely stock and my question is do you all think I can take him with my setup? Alabamaguy, I know you have a video of you taking a T/A's lunch, but I think that you had a few more mods than I have at the time you made that video. I just wanted to see everyone's reaction to this because this guy is really acting like a dueshce!!!!! I believe that I could do it! P.S. I do have my winter wheels on right now, so they are MUUUUCH lighter than my other ones.

ImpSS07

iTrader: (3)

Just race him and find out.

crazyjoe

Agreed, only one way to find out. If he's completely stock, race him from a dig and pray you get out of the hole better than he does, also shut it down right at the top of 2nd so he doesnt have time to use his top end power, and you just may surprise him. Odds are he'll probably still pull you, but you might shut him up if you put up a good race. Best of luck and keep us posted!

LuSe4

I would also spend a little time removing the subs, the spare tire, and anything else to lighten it up. You are going to need every advantage you can get. Good luck and video it for us!

RedHotG8

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I'd say it will be a drivers race. The stock Camaro Z28 does 13.5 and the MC SS does 13.9 stock, so with your mods you should be around the mid 13's so it'll be a good race.

GreenBlood

iTrader: (6)

with 22s and a stereo, I can see you getting walked.

AlabamaGuy

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You'll have a better chance on him from a roll. It's an autmatic RWD from a dig and he's stock so traction isn't an issue. It's an 01 so it has an LS6 intake and 241 heads (IIRC) so it's the higher output version of the LS1. But really the only thing you can do is try it and see. Be sure to get vids.

AlabamaGuy

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I was running 13.60s with more mods on stock wheels with no stereo.

AlabamaGuy

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This is a 01 that was "stock". Had some weight reduction and muffler but we're not sure what else. This was all bolt-ons sans intake manifold swap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TV9BUCsibLQ

RedHotG8

iTrader: (1)

With that said it doesn't look good for the MC SS.

LS1 Racing

iTrader: (15)

You're pretty-well modded, and if he was bone stock, it should be a close race.

There are couple of things to know, though. Even if he has stock hardware, the F-bodies have what's known as free-mods, and you wouldn't be able to tell at a glance. These free mods ALONE (cutting the plastic slot under the airfilter, descreened MAF, etc.) can be worth .2 and 1-2 MPH in the quarter. Also, common cheap mods for these cars would be airbox lid and a K&N filter, which can also add another .10 or two. If he has these things done, then it could be the difference.

That said, I'd race him and see. I also agree with crazyjoe in that, the faster you go, the more likely he will catch up or pull away. Most late 4th-gen automatic Z28s had 2.73 gears, and you should be able to holeshot a weak driver in one with your SS. The things is, once you start hitting highway speeds, he's gonna begin to pull hard just as the LS4 is starting to running out of breath.

You also may want to look under his hood before you race. If it looks like this, he's got the stock intake hardware, though he may have free mods lurking:



Note the stock air intake with the baffles on each side.

Now, if he has a lid and (and most likely) a filter, it will look like this:



Notice the less restrictive top and missing air baffles? This could be the difference between you winning and losing and will give you a better idea about the state of his car.

So, go out and give it your best and be sure to get it on tape!

Nacho SS

iTrader: (4)

He will pull you up top.

LS1 Racing

iTrader: (15)

This is about right for a stock Z28. I ran 13.70's with a 2.1 60-foot through a paper filter with less than 2000 miles on the motor and at 2800 feet of altitude and 80 degree weather. This was in a 2000 Z28, which had the more restrictive LS1 intake, too. With a lid, filter, and free mods, I was in the 13.30's in slightly better conditions.

Based on that, he may have some trouble beating this guy. The 2.73 automatic cars were pretty much point and shoot, but it's always possible he could hold a lead into the 65-70 MPH range.

evil 5.3

good luck but with having had both its a grim outlook remember everyone love vids

Nacho SS

iTrader: (4)

Agreed on all points. The LS4 is just too restrictive up top. 70-100 is painfully slow in an LS4 car.

3rd gear is right where the LS1 shines, especially with the LS6 intake on the 01-02. The race can be made interesting on the launch, but the LS1 makes it money right at 70-100.

AlabamaGuy

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Agreed. He *should* run you down if you manage to nail the launch. Intake swaps turn the tables though...I enjoy 3rd gear now

LS1 Racing

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You just gotta hope the tranny stays in one piece long enough to get you to 3rd gear!

texasGXP08

As nice as your wheels look they would hurt you in a race. I would run the stockers for your match up.

1BAD06MCSS

would you say a 30 or 40 roll?

1BAD06MCSS

Once again no one reads the post! I have my winter wheels which are WAAAAAYYYYYYY lighter! I really think I have a shot at this!