2005 Gxp with 2007 motor
01-31-2015, 01:44 PM
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2005 Gxp with 2007 motor I bought not running 2005 gxp with a 2007 motor not cranking thought it was vats issue read ecm with hp tuners says it a 2007 saturn vue v6 so the ecm i not the one that came with the motor.Is it possible to still use that ecm if i get i flashed or do i need to find one out of a 07 gxp. Thanks
01-31-2015, 03:09 PM
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Were any of the sensors changed form the 05 to the 07?
The 05/06 uses a different computer than the 07+
The earlier engine has a 24x reluctor wheel and the 07+has a 58x wheel (there is a kit available to convert this, thus allowing you to use the 05 comp)(Lingenfelter TRG-002 58X to 24X Trigger Conversion Module)
uncertain if they have/use the same connectors on the computers but if they do you will need to get one for the 07 and have it VIN # programed for your car or nothing will work. Also possibly a crank re-learn too!
The 05/06 uses a different computer than the 07+
The earlier engine has a 24x reluctor wheel and the 07+has a 58x wheel (there is a kit available to convert this, thus allowing you to use the 05 comp)(Lingenfelter TRG-002 58X to 24X Trigger Conversion Module)
uncertain if they have/use the same connectors on the computers but if they do you will need to get one for the 07 and have it VIN # programed for your car or nothing will work. Also possibly a crank re-learn too!
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01-31-2015, 05:06 PM
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Were any of the sensors changed form the 05 to the 07?
The 05/06 uses a different computer than the 07+
The earlier engine has a 24x reluctor wheel and the 07+has a 58x wheel (there is a kit available to convert this, thus allowing you to use the 05 comp)(Lingenfelter TRG-002 58X to 24X Trigger Conversion Module)
uncertain if they have/use the same connectors on the computers but if they do you will need to get one for the 07 and have it VIN # programed for your car or nothing will work. Also possibly a crank re-learn too!
The 05/06 uses a different computer than the 07+
The earlier engine has a 24x reluctor wheel and the 07+has a 58x wheel (there is a kit available to convert this, thus allowing you to use the 05 comp)(Lingenfelter TRG-002 58X to 24X Trigger Conversion Module)
uncertain if they have/use the same connectors on the computers but if they do you will need to get one for the 07 and have it VIN # programed for your car or nothing will work. Also possibly a crank re-learn too!
Thanks for the info
02-01-2015, 06:16 AM
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Without knowing what exactly has been done here (05 harness, sensors and such verses 07 harness and sensors) I have not verified pin for pin on the 2 different ECU`s (E40/E67 for both years and there communication with other modules.
If you can use the 05 original E40 with (http://shop.proservsolutions.com/LIN...L460065397.htm) It may be your best option.
Also remember the oil filters are different for both engines... do not use an 05/06 filter on the 07 engine
If you can use the 05 original E40 with (http://shop.proservsolutions.com/LIN...L460065397.htm) It may be your best option.
Also remember the oil filters are different for both engines... do not use an 05/06 filter on the 07 engine
02-03-2015, 11:09 AM
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no you can not use that ecm..
you have to get the proper 2007 ecm for that car/engine...
you can not use a 2005 or 2006 ecm, because they were different for the 2007 engines.. the controlling parameters/settings in the 2007/E67 ecm are different... so you have to get the correct 2007 E67 ecm for it...
you have to get the proper 2007 ecm for that car/engine...
you can not use a 2005 or 2006 ecm, because they were different for the 2007 engines.. the controlling parameters/settings in the 2007/E67 ecm are different... so you have to get the correct 2007 E67 ecm for it...
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02-03-2015, 12:12 PM
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I am going to have to correct 06montess on this one because:
- the 05/06 uses a body control module p/n 19300151
- the 07 uses body control module p/n 15942206
by using the 07 computer on the 05/06 it/they will not communicate with each other.
the engine difference is the crankshaft position sensor on both engines the -05/06 uses a 24 tooth reluctor ring and its matching sensor
-07 uses a 58 tooth reluctor ring and its matching sensor
the camshaft sensors are the same on both but the cam gear on the 05/06 only has 1 pickup/phase, the 07 cam gear has 4 pickups/phase
So using the unit I recommended directly plugs into those sensors and translates the 07 outputs to the required 05/06 parameters.
the transmission control units are the same though the 07 uses an extra pin that the 05/06 does not (it is an extra ground)
there is/ are some other small differences but to get you going in the right direction go with the 05/06 ECM and the unit recommended above.
this is providing that the 05/06 engine harness was used with the 07 engine, in this case the crank sensor connector would not plug into the 07 crank sensor as it has a different connector. the camshaft sensor connector are the same.
- the 05/06 uses a body control module p/n 19300151
- the 07 uses body control module p/n 15942206
by using the 07 computer on the 05/06 it/they will not communicate with each other.
the engine difference is the crankshaft position sensor on both engines the -05/06 uses a 24 tooth reluctor ring and its matching sensor
-07 uses a 58 tooth reluctor ring and its matching sensor
the camshaft sensors are the same on both but the cam gear on the 05/06 only has 1 pickup/phase, the 07 cam gear has 4 pickups/phase
So using the unit I recommended directly plugs into those sensors and translates the 07 outputs to the required 05/06 parameters.
the transmission control units are the same though the 07 uses an extra pin that the 05/06 does not (it is an extra ground)
there is/ are some other small differences but to get you going in the right direction go with the 05/06 ECM and the unit recommended above.
this is providing that the 05/06 engine harness was used with the 07 engine, in this case the crank sensor connector would not plug into the 07 crank sensor as it has a different connector. the camshaft sensor connector are the same.
Last edited by Ill_Born_ss; 02-03-2015 at 12:19 PM.