Big bird55

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i am picking up my cc306 tuesday morning and i am wonderign what springs you guys reccamend that are the cheapest and the same thign with lifter thanks.

also i need help identifying what type of valve springs i have on my car because if they are good enough to hold the 306 i am gonna use them instead. any way i can figure this out??? thanks

hitmanws6

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For springs id recommend patriot gold extremes. A lot of people run them and LE recommends them. Id stay away from beehives. My friend cracked 3 in his cam only LT1 (CC503). As far as lifters, GM LS7s will be your best option. Comp's are notorious for breaking and Morel's are used on more extreme applications. WS6 store sells the lifters for $130

Big bird55

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thanks

Big bird55

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but if i get the ls7 lifters wont i have to buy different rods cause of the lengths???

RamAir95TA

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You're going to have to measure for proper pushrod length anyway so it doesn't matter.

Big bird55

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it does to me cause it is a budget swap

but i do understand what you are saying

SoxXpupPeT

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+1 ! i run those springs and those lifters. very good set!

Big bird55

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k should i buy these as the set or individual??

RamAir95TA

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What do you mean? Pick up a set up 16 lifters and 16 pushrods.

Big bird55

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i mean the springs
you can buy them with the retainers and all that or buy them as individuals from what i under stood thier site to say

StealthFormula

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You could run the Crane 10308-1 spring kit which is $200 in Summit and has everything you need except for valve stem seals. Since the cc306 has lazy lobes you don't need any beehives or Patriot springs which cost quite a bit more money. Don't get me wrong they are better springs but since you are looking for a cheap set that will work the Cranes would probaly be your best bet.

jimmyd1997lt1

I hear alot of guys do the cc306?? is it that good, I see it used alot on here and other forums

hitmanws6

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its ok, not the best choice for the money. a 230/236 seems to be the way to go if you want a great off the shelf cam bigger than a CC 503

Big bird55

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this is true i just went 306 because i got it for a steal

RamAir95TA

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What a great reason to choose a cam.

Big bird55

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to me for the price it was i was about to get the 503 but when this popped up i wanted it. Its not how you want me to choose to mod or buy mods for my car am i right. but i do understand the facts about these cams and i know i am goign to be going a lil overkill with this right now

RamAir95TA

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Just as long as you know...lol.

Here's my reasoning - the cost behind the cam itself is 1/4th the cost of a complete cam install to be done correctly. After rockers, springs, timing chain, gaskets, blah blah blah, you're looking at close to a thousand dollars. You're going to need a mail-order tune to get this thing running. Then, once you get the cam you want, you're going to have to spend more money on a re-tune - money that could be put towards running a cam that makes far more sense. I could go on, but hey, it's your car. Good luck.

Wicked94Z

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its just funny that you'd **** on the beehives (obviously comp 918s), when they're made by the same manufacturer as the patriot springs. I'd recommend a good set of pac 1218s, you can pick the locators and retainers second hand for pretty cheap usually, and the springs aren't too expensive. Comp lifters actually have a suprisingly GOOD track record both hydraulic and mechanical, considering a lot of their other stuff sucks.

I dunno just need to filter the regurgitated internet bullshit with some real info...

hitmanws6

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i go off of what i experience personally. my friend on here (ss.slp.ls1) cracked 3 of them in less than 20K on the street with the 503, stock bottom end, shifting at 6500. On the other hand everyone I kow that runs/has ran Patriots never had a complaint. As far as the Comp lifters go, when ever i asked about a ticking my old motor was making the first thing a lot of people asked if i was running Comp lifters.

Big bird55

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thanks for understanding

now another thing i need to know guys who do yall reccamend for the best tune for the bird???