Cranksaft and pistons
#1
Cranksaft and pistons
1.) Can a 3.800" crankshaft fit into a LT1 without hitting the coolant passage?
2.) Would I need forged pistons if I am not going forced induction or N2O? Power goal is about 400-450 HP. Compression goal is about 12:1 maybe a little less.
Any help would be great!
2.) Would I need forged pistons if I am not going forced induction or N2O? Power goal is about 400-450 HP. Compression goal is about 12:1 maybe a little less.
Any help would be great!
#2
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Not uncommon to go as long as a 3.875" stroke, though pretty much anything over the 3.48" stock stroke will necessitate clearancing in the bottom end of the block. Need forged pistons, no. Good idea, yes. You may find some good quality .030 overs for less than you think. Others will chime in with specific piston recommendations based on their experience...
#3
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Not uncommon to go as long as a 3.875" stroke, though pretty much anything over the 3.48" stock stroke will necessitate clearancing in the bottom end of the block. Need forged pistons, no. Good idea, yes. You may find some good quality .030 overs for less than you think. Others will chime in with specific piston recommendations based on their experience...
if you want to step up the srp pro series kits are AWESOME...im running a set of .040 overs in mine right now they're light and strong......bit more $$ though close to 600 w/o rings
#5
1) You're probably going to end up welding the block to fix breaks into the coolant passage.
It's really not that big of a deal.
2) No, you don't NEED them ... but if you're going to go to all the trouble and expense to
build a stroker (and you'll need new pistons anyway), why not buy forged?
The price difference is negligible in the grand scheme of your project.
FWIW, you can get over 400RWHP on a stock bottom end with heads and mild cam.
It's really not that big of a deal.
2) No, you don't NEED them ... but if you're going to go to all the trouble and expense to
build a stroker (and you'll need new pistons anyway), why not buy forged?
The price difference is negligible in the grand scheme of your project.
FWIW, you can get over 400RWHP on a stock bottom end with heads and mild cam.
#6
I said 400 to 450 hp because I am in the hunt for more power under the curve and not peak power. And yes it would be rear wheels
And with a 3.800" crank wouldn't I need a different piston than what a 3.750" crank?
That would greatly limit the selection of pistons I can chose from if that is true. If that .005" doesn't matter too much and I can use the pistons that would normally go with a 3.750" crank then I will go forged.
Isn't the block cast iron?
And with a 3.800" crank wouldn't I need a different piston than what a 3.750" crank?
That would greatly limit the selection of pistons I can chose from if that is true. If that .005" doesn't matter too much and I can use the pistons that would normally go with a 3.750" crank then I will go forged.
Isn't the block cast iron?
#7
I said 400 to 450 hp because I am in the hunt for more power under the curve and not peak power. And yes it would be rear wheels
And with a 3.800" crank wouldn't I need a different piston than what a 3.750" crank?
That would greatly limit the selection of pistons I can chose from if that is true. If that .005" doesn't matter too much and I can use the pistons that would normally go with a 3.750" crank then I will go forged.
Isn't the block cast iron?
And with a 3.800" crank wouldn't I need a different piston than what a 3.750" crank?
That would greatly limit the selection of pistons I can chose from if that is true. If that .005" doesn't matter too much and I can use the pistons that would normally go with a 3.750" crank then I will go forged.
Isn't the block cast iron?
And yes, a stock LT1 block is cast iron.
Stock F/Y-body heads are aluminum
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#12
Be careful with that thing, at .005 you only move the piston .0025" closer to the head, which is fine with a stock deck.
At .050", you move the piston .025" closer to the head, which in most cases means that you are now .010" above deck.
Not only are you talking about increased compression, but with enough piston rock, you're making contact with the head.
Here's what we did for my 383. Note that I used ARP fasteners and 6" rods, which required additional clearancing work.
I think we welded a total of five times.
At .050", you move the piston .025" closer to the head, which in most cases means that you are now .010" above deck.
Not only are you talking about increased compression, but with enough piston rock, you're making contact with the head.
I think we welded a total of five times.
#15
Will a regular rotating assembly with a one piece rear main seal work in an LT1?
Something like:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Eagle/356/B130...oductId=749647
Al
Something like:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Eagle/356/B130...oductId=749647
Al
#16
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Be careful with that thing, at .005 you only move the piston .0025" closer to the head, which is fine with a stock deck.
At .050", you move the piston .025" closer to the head, which in most cases means that you are now .010" above deck.
Not only are you talking about increased compression, but with enough piston rock, you're making contact with the head.
Here's what we did for my 383. Note that I used ARP fasteners and 6" rods, which required additional clearancing work.
I think we welded a total of five times.
At .050", you move the piston .025" closer to the head, which in most cases means that you are now .010" above deck.
Not only are you talking about increased compression, but with enough piston rock, you're making contact with the head.
Here's what we did for my 383. Note that I used ARP fasteners and 6" rods, which required additional clearancing work.
I think we welded a total of five times.
#17
Will a regular rotating assembly with a one piece rear main seal work in an LT1?
Something like:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Eagle/356/B130...oductId=749647
Al
Something like:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Eagle/356/B130...oductId=749647
Al
Here are a few other choices. (Eagle and otherwise)
http://www.summitracing.com/search/S...?Ns=Rank%7cAsc
#19
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you can run regular sbc stuff in the motor......just go internal balance and run neutral balance damper and flexplate/flywheel and ur good to go
i've got reg SBC crank rods and pistons in my motor i even ran a two piece rear main crank and just used a moroso adapter to make it work in the 1 piece block
i've got reg SBC crank rods and pistons in my motor i even ran a two piece rear main crank and just used a moroso adapter to make it work in the 1 piece block
#20
But I agree that it could probably be made to work.
Mine were forged Eagle rods and L19 bolts, the bolts look similar to yours.