CapoThDon

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Who's running csr or meziere? I have a 355 I'm finishing up. Just wanting to know if csr is worth 180 or so? Cause I don't want to, but I will drop the 300 on meziere. Thanks guys

madhatter

I can't speak from experience but with everything I've seen on the boards over the years my pick would be a Meizere HD.

stevo9389

here are the 3 arguments you can expect to read in this thread and the countless others like it:

1. brand 'x' is worse than brand 'y' because I had a bad experience with brand 'x' but brand 'y' has given me no problems
2. STFU n00b y u need electric water pump when mechanical pwns all!
3. tons of bitching back and forth brand 'x' vs. 'y' vs. mechanical

In my experience: The Meziere seems to operate more quietly than the CSR. I have listened to several other cars who have run both (including my own) and the CSR is always slightly louder. There was no consistent performance or reliability difference, just cost.

ahritchie

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...don't let hrcslam get word of this new electric WP themed thread, or a spirited debate will ensue! :https://ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-m...ng-solved.html

BALLSS

have had a Meziere on for about 17 years and 85k mi. zero problems

a solid relay/fuse wiring is critical to safe operation

waltsfastz

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Buddy bought a jegs couple weeks ago. Looks like a meziere hd but a lot cheaper

MEAN LT1

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Have had my Meziere WP for the last 10 years. Still going strong.

IDriveChevy

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I have a meziere HD on my car and its great.

sweetbmxrider

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I don't even run a water pump!

Catmaigne

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The jegs one is not a meziere hd. Mine bit the dust after 2.5 years and only 20k when the impeller bearing **** itself. It was replaced with a meziere.

hrcslam

I was going to leave this alone. But, let's be real here. How many EWP threads have been bombarded by those that prefer a mechanical? None. How many mechanical threads are bombarded by the EWP guys? Seems like ALL of them. You have your demographic definitions confused. Let's be clear on this AGAIN, I have no personal problems with EWP's, they have their place. But, I'm not going to IGNORE the facts and physics to how they free up horsepower either.

It's sad that as soon as I saw this thread I knew you guys would do this. Like Children. It's also sad that EWP users are STILL dragging this out. Again, it was the EWP guys going into the EWP vs MWP debate? Why?

hrcslam

Please point out where this was said? Everything I've read says that about the electric, not mechanical. The MWP guys leave this S#!T alone. It's the EWP guys trolling MWP threads. Not sure why either.

Shownomercy

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Cause this dumb *** ls1tech, and its a sub forum for a car that is selling for under 3k these days. Its all downhill from here.

I run a Meziere HD and have had no issues with it as of yet.

Basically, are you running any timing set other than stock or the LT4 HD? If so, you can't run a MWP, so moot point.

Are you running a large displacement, high SCR, ragged edge NA motor in a road race setting? If not, the "need" for a MWP is moot.

Are you good at wiring and or have some intelligence? If so, wire up a EWP and call it a day.

Confused?

hrcslam

I think your limitation of the EWP capability is very overstated. It'll take much less engine to find the limits of the EWP road racing.

Shownomercy

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Perhaps, but, I just can't see a stock motor and tune really pushing that much heat. Either way, OP, state your goals for motor and go from there. Pretty straightforward.

hrcslam

I think the OP is already set on an EWP. The question he's posing is which one, CSR or Meziere. I've run neither so I have no advice to give either way.

I agree a stock motor or close to it shouldn't have much issue with an EWP for most driving styles and locations. But ambient conditions make a big difference in the cooling capacity of the system.

I'm not going to tell someone who wants to run an EWP not to, unlike some EWP users have to me.

Spartan7

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Right, because you're being so mature by starting yet ANOTHER argument when all you read in here were sarcastic comments. This wasn't a debate thread until you popped in here.

hrcslam

The hell do you think those jabs are? And here you are acting high and mighty, hypocrite much? I didn't start any argument, BTW. I was clarifying my statements when someone else brought my name into it. I didn't start the other one either.

Let's make this MORE obvious for you. In MY thread I gave advice on a fix for our old high mileage MWP spline couplers, someone else (EWP guy BTW) came in and started the debate (as most MWP threads go). Here, the OP asked which EWP to use (not EWP vs MWP), other users (EWP guys again) brought up the MWP debate and my name. I defended ME. You were saying??

ahritchie

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And so it begins....

hrcslam

Case in point Spartan7.