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Old 04-17-2008, 10:05 AM
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so guys i found out about two weeks ago that i blew my head gasket, so long story short the motor is dropping out the bottom of the car and while the head is off i decided that i would go ahead and get a cam, some 1.6 RR's, new springs, and new lifters. i had an LT4 hot cam kit on order from the dealer, but i have been waiting for the last two weeks to even find out when its gunna be here. so i decided yesterday to go ahead and get the Cadillac Cam from Speed Inc as i have read nothing but greatness about it and how sleeper it really is. The car is bone stock except for SLP CAI and ASP UD pullies. so im hoping for about 360 crank hp which is about 310 to the wheels. thats what a simiar guy put down without a tune. with a tune he put down 318hp and 32xtq. so hopefully i should be able to trick a few LS1 guys into thinking its bone stock and show them a lil LT power!
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I hope that 318hp is through a mushy-stalled automatic... because that's not too far above full bolt on territory from an M6.
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stall converter and exhuast are the next two things on the list.
and forgive my ignorance but what were you tyring to imply with that statement?
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He means he hopes those numbers are through a stalled automatic because a 6 speed dynoes around 20 less with full boltons which would make the cam not worth that much hp at all.
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you should put a cam in there that will be worth the effort
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the car he was talking about was a six speed, i believe the only bolton was a cai... i might be wrong though.
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Originally Posted by StealthFormula
He means he hopes those numbers are through a stalled automatic because a 6 speed dynoes around 20 less with full boltons which would make the cam not worth that much hp at all.
that doesn't make any sense to me, how is the cam not worth it? its adding 40-50 hp.
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Originally Posted by Formula96
the car he was talking about was a six speed, i believe the only bolton was a cai... i might be wrong though.
and i did not know it was a 6 speed but yes the only bolt on it had was a CAI. and i have that plus the UD pullies which is i dont know exactly but 1-2rwhp more? haha but either way if the head is going to be off i might as well pay 200 extra bucks to have the cam RR's and springs and lifters put in.
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What are the specs on this Cadillac cam? What was it used in?
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Originally Posted by PNYKLR-TA
that doesn't make any sense to me, how is the cam not worth it? its adding 40-50 hp.
there trying to say that with a much better cam you can get more horse power. and if your going to put in a cam why low ball so much. (i understand that u have to get heads for a bigger cam to reach full potential but still)
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No cam is gonna make a 99% stock car, with nothing but a cold air and UD pulleys, put down 318rwhp in an lt1... especially not while maintaining a smooth, stock-sounding idle.
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Originally Posted by Purple95Z28
No cam is gonna make a 99% stock car, with nothing but a cold air and UD pulleys, put down 318rwhp in an lt1... especially not while maintaining a smooth, stock-sounding idle.
ohh really how about you do some research and read this thread.
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Originally Posted by Purple95Z28
No cam is gonna make a 99% stock car, with nothing but a cold air and UD pulleys, put down 318rwhp in an lt1... especially not while maintaining a smooth, stock-sounding idle.
ohh really how about you do some research and read this thread.

https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...t=cadillac+cam

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Thumbs up LT1 "Cadillac" custom grind dyno results
I made up a custom grind cam for a customers 97 Trans Am WS6 6-speed.

The car is stock with the exception of a K&N filter, MSD wires and a Hooker aerochamber replacement muffler.

The cam is 213/218 @.050. . I also installed Comp 1.6 rockers and comp springs/retainers.

The car made 318rwhp and 320rwtq. Peak power was at 6,000, and it made over 300ft lbs of torque from 2,200 to 5,400.

This was with tuning. The car made 308/317 before tuning.

The car sounds dead stock and still has stock manifolds/cats/throttle body, etc.
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you like fruit?

well a basically stock LT1 with a CAI put down 318rwhp tuned.

How do you like them apples?
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because the cam sucks. shut up.
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Originally Posted by Ironxcross
because the cam sucks. shut up.
coming from a guy who lists an upgraded antenaa in his sig as a mod? haha! ok buddy you got it.

and i know its not the biggest baddest cam but thats not what im looking for. i intend on getting all the bolt on's afterwards, then throwing a stall in the car some gears and a little shot of nitrous to round it all off. that should be good until i have enough money to correctly build a large cammed and stalled car with some decent heads and intake.

so go ahead and hate when im beating ls1's and they totally buy into me being stock. this cam has no lope what so ever. ive heard a sound clip or two.
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agreed that cam is too small and if youre going to do it do it right the first time. ask me how i know. go big or go the f**k home.
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you don't need a big cam to go fast. don't get caught up in all the baby cam talk. figure out what your goals are and then try to find a cam that fits that. If the cadillac will get you what you want then get it. whatever you do dont overcam it.

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Originally Posted by borninatransam
agreed that cam is too small and if youre going to do it do it right the first time. ask me how i know. go big or go the f**k home.
ok well first off you only do it right the first time if you have the cash man. im not fucken rich in any matter im 20 and i make 14 bucks an hour drafting, plus this is my DD and i drive a decent distance to school a few times a week. so i guess yea if i had 10g's id build the car "right" in everyones eyes on this site cause everyone on here has 10g's to just blow on a car and make into a super strip car. im already borrowing money from my parents to pay for part of the repairs so its not like i have any more money to do anything else or believe me i would.
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Originally Posted by C_Rules
you don't need a big cam to go fast. don't get caught up in all the baby cam talk. figure out what your goals are and then try to find a cam that fits that. If the cadillac will get you what you want then dumdumdum and get it. whatever you do dont overcam it.
thank you. and i do intend on building up the entire car just in sections. next will be bolt on's (mainly exhaust) and then a stall. then a new rear end and some slicks. then once i blow that whole thing up or have enough money i will see what i can do then. maybe turbo, maybe large h/c with some spray.
this is my first "real" performance car so im not trying to build a 500hp monster right off the bat. **** coming from the cars i had before the car stock is still fast enough. i just figured if im gunna pay to have the head gasket replaced and the motor dropped out the bottom i might as well throw a new cam and stuff in.

thanks for all the responses guys. i just cant wait to go pick on some ls1's!

show them how much this boat anchor is worth! haha LT power!


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