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Old 02-16-2012, 03:23 PM
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Ok the 700hp/tq that this beast of a clutch is rated for is way overkill for the maximum 450hp/tq that my 99 z28 will have but I plan on doing weekend drag racing and the occasional run around the local road course. So it will definitely get the abuse but i also want it to be my daily driver, but it has to be able to handle that occasional abuse thats why I was looking at the stage 3. So what do you guys think, too much or should I check out something else? And other than the arp flywheel and pressure plate bolts will I need anything else? Last little question, do you locktite those bolts? Thanks
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I Loctite mine...but I have never seen it required. But then again, I saw a flywheel come up through the floor of a 55 Chevy. Went through the bellhousing, through the floor, through the toes of his shoe, through the dash, and out the windshield. I take clutch and flywheel fastening pretty serious after seeing what one can do. I also am a firm believer in a scattershield now when warranted.
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Its not too much, because I have it and its very streetable. I did use locktite, its in the clutch install instructions, I think.
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I had the monster 3 but downgraded to a monster 2. This was only because I had problems due to a bad install. In my opinion the level 3 was a bit much for a daily especially if you live in high traffic areas.

I love the level 2 so far but am still in the breakin period. I have no doubt it will handle that power since it is rated at 550hp and Monster rates thier clutches at wheel horsepower.

There is a c5 vette that is cutting 1.4 60fts and running 11.5s in the 1/4.
The only thing with the level 2 is you cannot hot lap it at the track due to it being semi-organic.

The Monster 3 you can hot lap the crap out of it without even batting an eye.

You just have to decide for yourself. My car sees more street than strip so I opted to get the level 2. Its easier to drive.
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yea i want to run it hard a few laps a month plus some hard runs down the strip every now and then. Does the level 3 make a hard pedal?
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Originally Posted by 99camaro5.7
yea i want to run it hard a few laps a month plus some hard runs down the strip every now and then. Does the level 3 make a hard pedal?
The pedal was very hard to me which was part of the reason it was hard to DD. I am 250lbs and it would pick my left *** cheek up a little off the seat when it was brand new breaking in and got better.

But unfortuately do to the installation error on mine causing issues at 1k miles I never really ended up being able to drive it normal.
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what was your installation error?
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Originally Posted by Scoobysnacks
I had the monster 3 but downgraded to a monster 2. This was only because I had problems due to a bad install. In my opinion the level 3 was a bit much for a daily especially if you live in high traffic areas.

I love the level 2 so far but am still in the breakin period. I have no doubt it will handle that power since it is rated at 550hp and Monster rates thier clutches at wheel horsepower.

There is a c5 vette that is cutting 1.4 60fts and running 11.5s in the 1/4.
The only thing with the level 2 is you cannot hot lap it at the track due to it being semi-organic.

The Monster 3 you can hot lap the crap out of it without even batting an eye.

You just have to decide for yourself. My car sees more street than strip so I opted to get the level 2. Its easier to drive.

I had the stage 3 also loved it but had problems with the pedal pressure issues and this was after a brand new clutch master......what was your issue ?? Also i suggest going with a tick if you havent already.
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A larger bore master cylinder such as Tick will make the pedal even harder to push. But the clutch will be quicker to react.
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Originally Posted by 99camaro5.7
Ok the 700hp/tq that this beast of a clutch is rated for is way overkill for the maximum 450hp/tq that my 99 z28 will have but I plan on doing weekend drag racing and the occasional run around the local road course. So it will definitely get the abuse but i also want it to be my daily driver, but it has to be able to handle that occasional abuse thats why I was looking at the stage 3. So what do you guys think, too much or should I check out something else? And other than the arp flywheel and pressure plate bolts will I need anything else? Last little question, do you locktite those bolts? Thanks
Monster Stage 3 would work great for your application. Generally the Stage 3 is pretty smooth with a little firmer pedal pressure. When doing a clutch install make sure you replace your slave, and it would be wise to upgrade the clutch master as well to get the most out of you monster. Clutch hydraulics are extremely important in the life of the clutch. We make it easy, we offer a complete package that includes it all:

http://www.tickperformance.com/tick-...camaro-firebird/
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I like what you guys do Chris. You take problems and offer viable solutions.
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Originally Posted by 99camaro5.7
yea i want to run it hard a few laps a month plus some hard runs down the strip every now and then. Does the level 3 make a hard pedal?
pedal is slightly stiffer than stock which did not bother me at all. The problem for me it still chatters.
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Thanks a lot Chris that's definitely the package I'm going to order, thanks for making it easy!
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I think you're already sold... but I use to DD my car, put a monster stage 3 on it 2 years ago, it still got 20K miles of DD duty after that.. has had about 6 more put on it since then. It is noticeably stiffer than stock, but not horrible, but don't go run 10 miles and come back expecting to drive home (unless you're a marathon runner LOL). All that said, I have no chatter, just some noise on take-off if I haven't been driving it hard enough. Almost 30K miles on my clutch and it grabs as good as when it was installed initially
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thats exactly what i needed to hear thanks racingtiger
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I didnt think it was any stiffer than the the stock pedal feel and has been awesome takes a serious beating and drove it everyday last year
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If you daily drive your car in traffic and have a decent size cam don't waste your money on a level 3...the clutch will start to squeal like a stuck pig because it gets glazed and i don't care how much you launch the car hard to get rid of the glaze it will come back..I can't stand it,makes my car sound like a pos...save your money and buy something better.
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I have 26k on my lvl 3 with ~150 passes. Dd it over 3 years now with just bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by bh353
If you daily drive your car in traffic and have a decent size cam don't waste your money on a level 3...the clutch will start to squeal like a stuck pig because it gets glazed and i don't care how much you launch the car hard to get rid of the glaze it will come back..I can't stand it,makes my car sound like a pos...save your money and buy something better.
This it the first incident that I have heard about this... We have lots of guys with just bolt ons that have a level 3 and drive them everyday. Two work here...
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Does the Level 3 use a ceramic material in the disc?


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