Manual Transmission T56 | T5 | MN12 | Clutches | Hydraulics | Shifters

T56 Tranny Fluid Spraying Rings - Help Diagnose

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-29-2013, 01:16 PM
  #1  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default T56 Tranny Fluid Spraying Rings - Help Diagnose

Vehicle Info: LS2/T56 converted Miata;

Observations:
- Rear Seal Has Been Replaced;
- No apparent play in the driveshaft.
- After each drive I have a nice ring of transmission fluid around the bottom of my car.
- The portion of the yoke that slides into the T56 is dry to the touch which makes me think its not a tailshaft seal problem.
- Drops on the floor occur right under the ears of the yoke.
- Feeling around the transmission including shifter area I do not notice fluid.

Please take a look at the pictures and help me diagnose the problem because I can't find the source.

[IMG][/IMG]


This picture kind of shows why I am stumped: The spray is relatively narrow and centered around the yoke. If the tailshaft were leaking I would imagine the spray pattern would be wider as it would fling off the portion of the yoke that slides into the tranny. It is hard to tell but there is gap between the end of the t56 and where the spray starts. Also I can press on the newly installed seal boot and no fluid appears to press out.

[IMG][/IMG]
Old 12-29-2013, 01:34 PM
  #2  
TECH Veteran
 
BALLSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,904
Received 87 Likes on 78 Posts

Default

is the leak from the shifter base then driping down to yoke and getting slung around?

maybe with the car in gear running up on a lift you can see source...be carefull of moving parts though
Old 12-29-2013, 01:34 PM
  #3  
TECH Veteran
 
BALLSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 4,904
Received 87 Likes on 78 Posts

Default

is the leak from the shifter base then driping down to yoke and getting slung around?

maybe with the car in gear running up on a lift you can see source...be carefull of moving parts though
Old 12-29-2013, 02:39 PM
  #4  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Don't think so because the shifter base (perimeter) is dry to the touch every time I check.
Old 12-29-2013, 04:35 PM
  #5  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (11)
 
Exidous's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Under a rock
Posts: 1,747
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts

Default

Rear drive shaft seal.

I know you just replaced it but I bet it's still leaking.
Old 12-29-2013, 05:50 PM
  #6  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Here is another angle showing the spray pattern versus the tailshaft seal. This picture really shows situation. If you look to the top of the picture you can see the fluid spray which is directly inline with the yoke.

[IMG][/IMG]
Old 12-29-2013, 05:54 PM
  #7  
jmd
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
jmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: T56th Street, Aridzona
Posts: 2,561
Received 26 Likes on 24 Posts

Default

Hopefully Pirate allows hotlinking.

Old 12-30-2013, 06:36 AM
  #8  
TECH Regular
 
oldmano2z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

jmd, Nice!!! I'll remember that!!! the oldman.........
Old 12-30-2013, 06:39 AM
  #9  
TECH Regular
 
oldmano2z's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

chuckles, that x-pipe continue to over axle? don't mean to jack your thread.
Old 12-30-2013, 11:10 AM
  #10  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

This is on a Miata which has a rear subframe & independent rear end. The X-pipe feeds through the rear-sub jut under the half-shafts.
Old 12-30-2013, 11:49 AM
  #11  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
GTA91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St.Louis, Missouri
Posts: 1,131
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Like JMD said, check the "plug" on the center of the yoke. I had that problem a few years ago on my high dollar forged yoke from Moser.
Old 12-30-2013, 01:04 PM
  #12  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Is fixing the plug a DIY job and if so do I simply knock out the plug and re-install with sealant? What did you do to correct the issue?

Thanks
Old 12-30-2013, 03:33 PM
  #13  
9 Second Club
iTrader: (14)
 
GTA91's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: St.Louis, Missouri
Posts: 1,131
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Yes, that's exactly what I did to mine... knocked it out and reinstalled it with some RTV. Never had another issue.
Old 12-31-2013, 07:55 PM
  #14  
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (28)
 
studderin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 5,556
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts

Default

do you have the vent tube on the passanger side running up long the trans still? if you just put a cap on it, when the trans warmsup it needs to vent. Or it will **** fluid out the easiest spot.
Old 12-31-2013, 08:51 PM
  #15  
jmd
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
jmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: T56th Street, Aridzona
Posts: 2,561
Received 26 Likes on 24 Posts

Default

Even a properly vented box will leak out a yoke there. BTDT. These trans. need a closed yoke.
Old 01-01-2014, 12:46 PM
  #16  
Teching In
Thread Starter
 
Chuckles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 17
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Yes, the factory vent-tube is installed.

By "Closed Yoke" do you mean a solid plug? I know some have a welch plug with a hole in the center.
Old 01-01-2014, 01:42 PM
  #17  
jmd
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
jmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: T56th Street, Aridzona
Posts: 2,561
Received 26 Likes on 24 Posts

Default

Yes, no need for a vent or bolt hole in these passenger car, slip-yoke style transmissions.



Quick Reply: T56 Tranny Fluid Spraying Rings - Help Diagnose



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:55 PM.