dylan24

Hey, I was wondering if anyone can guestimate some prices of about how much it would cost to have a new 3rd gear sychronizer put in (parts and labor). I want to know about how much a shop would want to do it. I normally do my own work, but trannys are not one of my strong points, and I don't want to try to rip one apart. But I would like to get it fixed ASAP, and I will pay whatever it takes I guess, but I just wanted to know what kind of money I'm getting into. Thanks!

GlennNo50

All of the shops I called would on ly quote me on a basic rebuild. All synchros, shift fork pads etc. All of them wanted between 1200 and 1400.

ls1 joe

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For $200 more you would get bronze fork pads, a 1 year warranty and alot more. Give me a call.

Thanks,
Joe
832-488-0533

Bugsquawsher

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Bronze Fork pads?
Cool
You selling a Pad Kit?

ls1 joe

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I sell them as part of all of my packages now. I have 1-6 and reverse as well. I stock about 200 of these since they go in every rebuild I do.

Thanks,
Joe

ddnspider

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id definitely give LS1Joe a call,i just recently got carbon fiber synchros,steel 3-4 fork billit slider keys and bronze pads from him for a great deal.

calhoon

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So you glue these pads on or what? Are they really bronze or machined brass?

Bugsquawsher

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I dought they are Glued. If they were made right , they should Clip on just like the plastic ones.
The Brass bronze question is a good one.
Actually I dont' think it would make that much difference.
Either would be better than Plastic and the Plastic ones are Fine.
I seen some with 100 k on them and they were still ok.
But then I seen some with 10k on them and were totally shot and busted off.
Now here's something to think about.
If a plastic one Breaks off and floats around in your tranny, No real damage can happen other than you might not be able to get all the way into gear.
If a Brass/Bronze one Failed and floated around the tranny.

ddnspider

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hopefully thats the idea of the bronze pads as opposed to plastic.....that they WONT break off.

Bugsquawsher

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Thats the Idea

ls1 joe

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No they are not glued. They are greased on. If you really felt the need you could silicone them in place but they will not brake off or move around. There is no way for them to move unless the fork itself brakes. They have been tested by many road race teams and have never had a failure of any kind with the bronze fork pads. I am 100% confident that installed properly they will last 3 times longer than the stock plastic ones.

As for 100K miles and still looking good, every transmission that I tear down the plastic ones are damaged in some way. I have a tranny that has 2,000 miles on it and the plastic ones are shot. I have stopped using the plastic ones as I feel they are very unrealiable.

Thanks,
Joe

Bugsquawsher

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I don't dissagree with you at all.
thats why I said
"I seen some with 100 k on them and they were still ok.
But then I seen some with 10k on them and were totally shot and busted off."

I guess what I mean by ok is, they were still there, LOL and had minimal Grooving.

Thumbs up on the Bronze ones.

ls1 joe

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I didn't think you were disagreeing but stating what you had seen. I think the bronze are worth the cost.

Joe

calhoon

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Bronze would be better than brass due to the better wear characteristics, unless you are talking about an alloy like used in the blocker ring. Either way you will not get one that snaps on like the plastic. That feature is a benefit of molding -in the feature that holds them. Can't do it with a machined part no matter who you think designed it. You would do well to use an epoxy to glue them on however. They will not stay in place on their own unless you have them press-fit in place.RTV is not a good idea to retain parts inside the box.