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Old 03-28-2012, 01:19 AM
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ive been looking for a 2002 ws6 trans thats SOM for about 2-3 years now, i finally found one and am in a monetary position to afford one. i wanna know how can you tell if it is a real ws6 besides the rpo code on the door. and also how rare is the car or how many of them were built? its a 2002 ws6 trans am. t-top. 6spd. its 200 miles away so i cant just go look at it. im looking for tips on what to do and look for when i go see it. also any other suggestions on what to ask the owner or look for would be apppreciated
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Originally Posted by Isaiah Gamboa
i wanna know how can you tell if it is a real ws6 besides the rpo code on the door.
If you can get the VIN, you can have any GM dealer run the VIN through their VIS to get a complete list of all the factory option codes. I just go to the parts department guys for this. On that list should be "WS6", just like on the SPID sticker on the driver's door.
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As long as the vin on the spid sticker match the vin of the car there is no reason to doubt the validity of it being a true ws6 or not.
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Originally Posted by bww3588
As long as the vin on the spid sticker match the vin of the car there is no reason to doubt the validity of it being a true ws6 or not.
^this, best way to do it
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No 4th Gen F-body is rare in the sense of what other rare cars that other people recognize. But be that said SOM and NBM are some rare/premium colors that people look out for.

Some models before 2002 had some even odder options that could make the car a 1 out of 12 or even less. Some people care, most dont.

Buy the car you like and as far as the scratches, if you cant catch it with a finger nail, it can be buffed out, if not then it is what it is.
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Originally Posted by Isaiah Gamboa
ive been looking for a 2002 ws6 trans thats SOM for about 2-3 years now, i finally found one and am in a monetary position to afford one. i wanna know how can you tell if it is a real ws6 besides the rpo code on the door. and also how rare is the car or how many of them were built? its a 2002 ws6 trans am. t-top. 6spd. its 200 miles away so i cant just go look at it. im looking for tips on what to do and look for when i go see it. also any other suggestions on what to ask the owner or look for would be apppreciated
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A total of 30,690 Firebirds were built in 2002 for worldwide distribution..
Sold orders (ordered by customer specifically) 4,454
Fleet orders 721

5,192 were Convertible models

23,648 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels

26,391 had FE9 Federal Emissions System
2,018 had NG1 Northeast Emissions System
2,269 had YF5 California Emissions System

20,769 had the LS1 Gen III V8 Engine (67.7%)
9,921 had the L36 3800 Series V6 (32.3%)

16,837 had NW9 Traction Control (54.9%)
5,934 had U1S 12 Disc CD changer (19.3%)

14,908 had the WS6 Ram Air Package (48.6%)

1,500 had the WU6 Firehawk Package (4.9%)

2,391 had the Z15 Collector Package (7.8%)


Convertible Top Colors:

10T White 137 units
41T Black 4,455 units
56T Taupe 600 units


Total Firebird Color Breakdown:

10U White 2,918 9.5%
11U Pewter 4,302 14.0%
13U Silver 3,089 10.1%
28U Dk Blue 3,290 10.7%
41U Black 7,572 24.7%
44U Maple 867 2.8%
54U C/E Yellow 2,391 7.8%
71U S.O.M. 1,208 3.9%
81U Red 5,053 16.5%

Interior Breakdown:

19B Ebony Cloth 7,378 24.0%
192 Ebony Leath 14,832 48.3%
194 C/E Leather 2,391 7.8%
52B Taupe Cloth 1,078 3.5%
522 Taupe Leather 2,230 7.3%

FIREBIRD V6 COUPE 8,423 units (11.6% of production)

1,000 units had MM5 Manual transmission (11.9%)
7,423 units had MX0 Automatic Transmission (88.1%)

2,567 units had NW9 Traction control (30.5%)
7,375 had FE9 Emissions (87.6%)
425 had NG1 Emissions (5.0%)
619 had YF5 Emissions (7.3%)

6,573 had CC1 Removable Roof Panels (78%)

2,056 had Y87 Performance package (24.4%)

10U 982 units
11U 1,470 units
13U 1,188 units
28U 946 units
44U 415 units
41U 1,545 units
71U 372 units
81U 1,505 units


V6 Convertible 1,498 units (2.1% of production)

All had MX0 Automatic Transmission
401 had NW9 Traction Control
1,233 had FE9 Emissions
66 had NG1 Emissions
199 had YF5 Emissions

34 had 10T white conv. top
1,268 had 41T black conv. top
196 had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 289 units
11U 294 units
13U 102 units
28U 88 units
41U 114 units
44U 213 units
71U 28 units
81U 370 units

FORMULA COUPE 901 UNITS 1.2% OF PRODUCTION

409 units had MN6 6-speed transmission
492 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
473 units had NW9 Traction Control

729 had FE9 Emissions
95 had NG1 Emissions
76 had YF5 Emissions

167 had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 70 Units
11U 124 units
13U 90 units
28U 142 units
41U 244 units
44U 42 units
71U 51 units
81U 138 units

TRANS AM COUPE 3,962 5.5% OF PRODUCTION

1,591 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
2,371 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
2,732 units had NW9 Traction Control

3,345 units had FE9 Emissions
273 units had NG1 Emissions
344 units had YF5 Emissions

1,131 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

10U 343 units
11U 408 units
13U 408 units
28U 474 units
41U 1,215 units
44U 145 units
71U 135 units
81U 834 units

TRANS AM CONVERTIBLE 998 UNITS (1.4% OF PRODUCTION)

235 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
763 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
578 units had NW9 Traction control

858 units had FE9 Emissions
71 units had NG1 Emissions
67 units had YF5 Emissions

202 units had WU6 Firehawk Package

36 units had 10T white convert. Top
777 units had 41T black convert. Top
185 units had 56T Taupe convert. Top


10U 84 units
11U 246 units
13U 58 units
28U 109 units
41U 261 units
44U 52 units
71U 26 units
81U 162 units

WS6 RAM AIR COUPES 12,212 UNITS (16.9% OF PRODUCTION)

6,828 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
5,384 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
8,115 units had NW9 Traction Control

10,601 had FE9 Emissions
833 had NG1 Emissions
775 had YF5 Emissions

1,349 units were Z15 Collector Editions

10U 986 units
11U 1,585 units
13U 1,112 units
28U 1,327 units
41U 3,630 units
54U (C/E) 1,349 units
71U 525 units
81U 1,698 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLES 2,696 UNITS (3.7% OF PRODUCTION)

1,176 units had MN6 6-speed manual transmission
1,520 units had MX0 Automatic transmission
1,971 units had NW9 Traction Control

2,250 had FE9 Emissions
255 had NG1 Emissions
189 had YF5 Emissions

1,042 were Z15 Collector Editions


67 units had 10T white conv. top
2,410 units had 41T Black conv. top
219 units had 56T Taupe conv. top


10U 164 units
11U 175 units
13U 131 units
28U 204 units
41U 563 units
54U (C/E) 1,042 units
71U 71 units
81U 346 units



WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL


10U 454 units
11U 963 units
13U 613 units
28U 738 units
41U 2,066 units
54U 842 units
71U 304 units
81U 848 units


WS6 RAM AIR COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 532 units
11U 622 units
13U 499 units
28U 589 units
41U 1,564 units
54U 507 units
71U 221 units
81U 850 units

WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED

10U 56 units
11U 71 units
13U 51 units
28U 74 units
41U 221 units
54U 554 units
71U 30 units
81U 119 units


WS6 RAM AIR CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC

10U 108 units
11U 104 units
13U 80 units
28U 130 units
41U 342 units
54U 488 units
71U 41 units
81U 227 units


FIREHAWK COUPE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL TRANS

10U 60 units
11U 54 units
13U 84 units
28U 127 units
41U 348 units
71U 60 units
81U 150 units

FIREHAWK COUPE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 28 units
11U 49 units
13U 40 units
28U 76 units
41U 121 units
71U 25 units
81U 76 units

FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH 6-SPEED MANUAL

10U 8 units
11U 9 units
13U 6 units
28U 23 units
41U 45 units
71U 11 units
81U 26 units


FIREHAWK CONVERTIBLE WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION

10U 8 units
11U 5 units
13U 1 unit
28U 17 units
41U 26 units
71U 4 units
81U 13 units
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Originally Posted by Isaiah Gamboa
ive been looking for a 2002 ws6 trans thats SOM for about 2-3 years now, i finally found one and am in a monetary position to afford one. i wanna know how can you tell if it is a real ws6 besides the rpo code on the door. and also how rare is the car or how many of them were built? its a 2002 ws6 trans am. t-top. 6spd. its 200 miles away so i cant just go look at it. im looking for tips on what to do and look for when i go see it. also any other suggestions on what to ask the owner or look for would be apppreciated
Well, the wheels that are on that car in the picture are year-specific WS6 wheels available only in 2002. I doubt that someone making a clone WS6 would bother with the wheels, probably just put some other after market wheels on it.

So that's a good sign.

I will also add that that car looks like a fine example of a stock 2002 WS6. The hood is correct, the Ram Air decals are right, the ride height is stock. It does not appear to have been modified in any way.

Of course, it's just one picture. But if it wasn't the real deal there would probably be other signs of little changes. Got any other pictures?
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Originally Posted by ghardester
Well, the wheels that are on that car in the picture are year-specific WS6 wheels available only in 2002. I doubt that someone making a clone WS6 would bother with the wheels, probably just put some other after market wheels on it.

So that's a good sign.
Agreed. I took my 2002 NBM Trans Am, added a hood, and went with 2001 and older WS.6 Rims. Love it. I HATE the 2002's YUK.
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Originally Posted by BlackScreaminMachine
Agreed. I took my 2002 NBM Trans Am, added a hood, and went with 2001 and older WS.6 Rims. Love it. I HATE the 2002's YUK.
Only the very early 2001s had the same style of wheels found on the '96-'00 cars. The vast majority of 2001 WS6 production included the same Speedline wheels found on all of the non-CETA 2002 models.

I agree though, I don't like the Speedlines either. I didn't like them on the mid-year LT1 Firehawks nor Comp T/As either. Not sure why they brought them back in 2001.
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I have 2001 Early Models, thats why I say that ^_^ got them for Drag Race Moderator JL-ws6
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Default thanks guys

thanks for the tips. yea i was pretty sure it was a ws6 but still cant be too careful. ive wanted this car for a long time now. ive had it as my phone wallpaper for the longest time. here are some more pics of it. and i know it isnt rare. but i meant rare as in a sense of how many were made that were som with ttop and 6spd. ive heard that only like 270 were made but ive also heard a lil over 300 were made like this
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and around how much would yall say is a good price? assuming that its in good condition and stuff. and any tips on what else to look for on the car when i do get to see it? i have a silverado now same SOM color. i know alot about trucks but as far as cars and trans ams not too much
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It looks like it has an aftermarket exhaust, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
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yea the owner just told me that the first owner put an exhaust on there. he said he thinks its an slp. that i dont mind. but other than that he said its stock
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how did u get pics of the scratches?
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How many miles are on it?
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KBB Private Party in VG condition with 47k miles is $14325. I'd try for a few grand less.. Those scratches are kind of an eyesore and would probably be a deal breaker for me unless they can be mostly buffed out. The price would definitely have to take the scratches into consideration.. Just check for the usual things on a vehicle. Any body or paint work, fluid leaks. Make sure the rear end doesn't whine. Make sure the engine, clutch, and trans operate properly. I would stay away from a car with internal engine mods myself. Just take in the overall condition of the vehicle. Ask for maintenance records. Getting a feel of the owner will often give you an idea of how the car was treated.
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Originally Posted by Isaiah Gamboa
how did u get pics of the scratches?
I have a relative that lives in Brownsville and had him check it out for me,car needs passenger window motor & headlight gear...also tranny has an issue with 1st-2nd but who knows it could be something minor or major.


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