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Old 06-27-2012, 11:20 PM
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Default Car went 12.2 at 111 mph what about 150 shot ?

So how much will you guys think it will gain with a 150 shot I have a forged 347 heads can and a turbo 400
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Originally Posted by Luke1834
So how much will you guys think it will gain with a 150 shot I have a forged 347 heads can and a turbo 400
What were the rest of your times with that 12.2? Like the 60' and 1/8 mile times. How much does your car weight and what are your rear gears? What size stall is in the car and are you foot braking or trans braking? Also, what are your cam specs? To be truthful, I would think your car should be running a little bit faster on the motor with those mods. Back when my car was full weight and motor only with almost the same mods, I was running deep 11's.

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I like to hear more... That's where I am aNd Im adding nitrous .
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I have a 2001 trans am ws6 with a cast iron 5.3 bored to 3.903 (347) with forged bottom end . Patriot ls6 heads 232 236 nitrous cam 114lsa .615 lift and all the Boltons and stock ls6 intake with stock throttle body . It has a turbo 400 with a 4500 stall and either 3:73 or 3:42 gears , it has BMr tubular k member ,no back seats or seatbelts and BMr suspension in the back lca,drag bar ect . I think the car is just rlly heavy my 60' was 1.7 my 8th was 7.8 at 92mph and the quarter was 12.227 at 113* mph
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What tire? That 60' is terrible. Also, your MPH is way down for Heads/Cam. My SI car traps the same, if not better.
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Yeah, before you go to nitrous I would get the N/A figured out!! Even with the car that heavy, your should be 60' a lot better. Sounds like you need some suspension tuning. Does the trans have a brake or are you foot braking it? Are your shocks stock or aftermarket?

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There is a lot more going on that suspension quirks lol. I do not mean to insult, but your times are horrid, the mph is even worse. That car is definitely hurting somewhere. Id do a compression test. That car is NOT heavy especially with a tubular k member, no backseats or belts. My buddy's CAM ONLY 228R/4k stall T/A ran 11.90's with around the same trap speed. You need to investigate. Id post this over in the Gen III internal engine section for more info. I would not be considering nitrous at all right now.
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I was thinking I was having a valve float issue the car made 400 hp on a mustang dyno but at 5800 Rpms it completely leveled out . Ya the car does have some things to lighten it up but it also has a cast iron block with a turbo 400 . The car is leavin off te foot brake for now it does have a transbrake though . It's doesn't spin at all I have all BMR suspension adjustable tq arm , lca relocation, drag bar . I posted my time slip in the drag result section I will post my dynograph soon
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I've been running nitrous plugs br7ef do you guys think that would cause a problem n/a? This is driving me crazy i thought for sure i would go 11.5 ish n/a and mid tens on a 150 shot. The only 2 things that i brought to the machine shop that assembled my engine that were used out of the ls1 that went crazy lean and destroyed the motor were the cam and the springs. Im kind of leaning towards changing the cam and the springs.
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No the colder plugs aren't killing your n/a power like that. COuldnt hurt to have the cam inspected and a spring change anyway. Any divots or ruts in the lobes?
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No I don't think the machine shop inspected everything it made power all the way up to 5800 Rpms it was climbing hard then all of a sudden it just stops and the line flattens out and it goes up and Down ... Could my 30lb injectors cause this ?
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what do you have for a fuel pump? What is your injector duty cycle?
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I have a Walbro 255 and ford 30lb injectors
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you have a stock throttle body, the damn thing probably cant breath worth a **** lol
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The motor would breath a lot better with a fast 92/92 setup. But I don't think that is whats holding him back right now. What was your n/a air fuel ratio on your dyno run?
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I'm not sure the a/f ratio the tuner somehow knew that the intake or throttle body was choking it because he told me the same thing also
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What was the DA for these runs?
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I'm at sea level
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DA is a lot more than just elevation. What ab the track temp and humidity?
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it was nice and cool out no humidity... that is the dyne graph from when it was a 6 speed i switched too a turbo 400 5 days later


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