ehirst83

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I bought a used 5177 kit from someone on this board and I am trying to make it into a wet kit. Can anyone tell me why there are two nitrous solenoids? I would think there would only be one for nitrous and one for fuel which I bought. Also where could I mount the solenoids? I have to plumb after the MAF if I'm spraying fuel right? Plus I'm trying to get all this ready by race day on Friday. Any input would be much appreciated.

ss rally red

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Both solenoids are for the nitrous,they are run inline, I do happen to have a brand new unopend wet conversion kit that I can let go for 150 shipped if your interested.

ehirst83

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Hmmm that's tempting. I've already got the NOS fuel solenoid. What else does the kit come with? All I need now are the lines and connections right?

ehirst83

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Also does anyone know what size jets I need for my fuel lines? I'm running .032 jets in the nitrous lines which are 100 shot right? I wanted to pick up my lines today here's my list. 3 feet of -4AN for the fuel rail and two 16" -3AN for the foggers. Plus whatever jets. Also do I still need to run both nitrous solenoids in line?

ehirst83

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TTT please guys I'm on a time crunch and need some help

strokedls1

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39N 22F should give you a rwhp 100 shot. The dual 32s would be more like a 75 rwhp shot. The system has to be sprayed after the maf if you go wet. I am not familiar with the n2o solinoid config on that kit. You are going to need to buy some wet nozzles from nx or tnt, lines and the solinoid. Why are you not just running the dry kit. Are you looking for a big shot that the injectors can't handle. Have you done a different fuel pump yet. That would be a good idea. If you run a fernco coupler between the tb and maf you could drill into that to mount the spray nozzles.

ehirst83

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I think I have 38N jets I guess I'll try those. I wanted to run the wet for insurance and they hit a lot harder. Eventually I want to upgrade my fuel pump and run 150 shot. I already have a NOS fuel solenoid and fogger nozzles and I'm picking up my lines today along with my fuel jets .022 right?

strokedls1

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Yes 22F 38N. Sounds like you have it all covered then. Just need to get lines and plumb everything.

Robert56

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If your going wet, you'll need a nozzle for n2o and fuel. The n2o helps the fuel into a mist like state, if you don't do this you'll have fuel just gurgling out. Nitro dave has a conversion kit with everthing included, you'll have to dump the dual dry nozzles. Also, NOS makes a specific kit for converting the 5177 to wet. My opinion would be stay dry.
Robert

ehirst83

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I've already got the NOS fogger nozzles for fuel and nitrous. Why would I want to stay with a dry kit?

Robert56

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I am leaving to the drags to run my dual stage 5177 dry, so this will be short. Safety, imo, is the biggest factor. Easier install, cheaper, safer and will make as much power as a wet kit. The real question is why do you want to convert to wet? I mean that's ok, if you've made a knowledgable informed decession.
Robert

ehirst83

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OK you convinced me. I ran all my lines for my dry kit and am going to run that Friday at the drags. I'm going to run the 125 shot dry and see how it does...

Robert56

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Remember, the 125hp hit is really about 106rwhp. NOS rates at the crank. But there are plenty of guys knocking a full second off their ETs with the 100dry shot. I ran back to back new bests last night running the 5177, and mucho more to come.
Robert

cantdrv65

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You dont. for he same reasons Robert says you should stay dry....GO WET. Except you do not have to tune by reflash or change injectors with a wet kit,.

Robert56

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What the hey are you talking about? Let me another example for those who don't know anything about a dry hit.
A friend with a '03 Z06 ran a base line 12.6x. then engage his 100rwhp jetted 5177 and ran a 11.48, I was there and saw this. Further more this was a stock tune, stock injectors, stock timing, stock fuel pump, stock spark plugs (which should be changed out on all n2o hits/kits).
Another friend runs a 5177 on his Trans Am, and his normal best is 13.1x, and last night on his 100rwhp jetted kit, ran a 11.89 Et. Now he has changed nothing in his tune between n/a and n2o.
Myself as an example, 11.71 n/a on a custom fuel curve tune for my dual 5177s. Stock timing, so far, with no KR. I am ready to put 42lb injectors in, but am going to be way past the 100/125hp mark.
So in conclusion, as is the normal case, people want to bash the dry hit, but mostly it's to justify their choice of a wet kit, which I don't have problem with. with that said, there are many more things that can go wrong on a wet than a dry, period. I have a whole lot more to go if needed, and am primed now, so bring it on.
Robert

Edit: You asked why is there two n2o noids. The answer is safety. About the only problem you'll have with a dry hit is a solenoid sticking open (I have had one do this). Now with redundant noids the chance of both noids not closing are about Zero. With a wet kit there are at least a dozen more senerios that could cause engine problems. Also, if you compare the cost of, for example, a NX wet kit and the recomended add ons (witch most are included in the 5177) you'll see that you can afford the bigger injectors and still be ahead, so the implication that a dry hit (to go bigger) is more expensive compared to a wet, is baloney also.

cantdrv65

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The hey Im talking about is ease to go with a larger shot later... Injectors require a reflash. You know you were going to get some dissention on that dry opinion Robert. Im glad to here you got the issues sorted out. Now rip that Cobra a new hole. And your right at 100 shot level its really only opinion.

Edit: As for larger shots, wet is easier no question about it. BTW what would you consider a Direct Port....Hint: Wet...

Robert56

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Ok, I just got a little excited. It's just that a handfull of dry guys has been ripping everyone new azzbungs at our local track, so they work.
Robert

cantdrv65

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Sure they work, but put a wet kit on the same car and viola more ******** ripped.

quick99ws6

if you still have the kit email me at quick99ws6@aol.com im very interested, thanks