200 shot for a Civic?
08-26-2005, 05:48 PM
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200 shot for a Civic? Apperantly there's not a lot of Honda guys running dedicated nitrous setups and in turn no nitrous electronics so I'm here to ask for some input from people that actually use it. I'm running a built 11.2:1 compression 1.8L shortblock with Golden Eagle sleeves, Eagle rods, ARP rod bolts, J.E. pistons, and AEBS head studs.
Anyhow I've got a NOS single fogger that'll go in after I break it in, and I'll be running a 125 shot untill I figure out how I'm going to put any more power to the ground then I'll convert to direct port. I've been looking around for something that's PC programmable with integrated, WOT and window switches and RPM/time based ramp ups. It'd be nice if it could pull a few degress of timing as well. I'm trying to avoid running several boxes if you get my drift. So far FJO/NX's dual winow switch with the progressive module looks promising. I'd have to find another solution for timing though but everything pretty much is going to require me to get an ignition box anyway... So what are you guys using and which works better, RPM or time based ramp ups?
Anyhow I've got a NOS single fogger that'll go in after I break it in, and I'll be running a 125 shot untill I figure out how I'm going to put any more power to the ground then I'll convert to direct port. I've been looking around for something that's PC programmable with integrated, WOT and window switches and RPM/time based ramp ups. It'd be nice if it could pull a few degress of timing as well. I'm trying to avoid running several boxes if you get my drift. So far FJO/NX's dual winow switch with the progressive module looks promising. I'd have to find another solution for timing though but everything pretty much is going to require me to get an ignition box anyway... So what are you guys using and which works better, RPM or time based ramp ups?
08-26-2005, 07:12 PM
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A 200 shot is pretty damn damn big for a 1.8L motor. My friend ran a 75 shot and picked up a full second. He had a vtec prelude motor in his civic. I don't know about a combination circuit for all those things. We used a msd window switch that worked fine. I think you will definitely need a progressive controler to get it out of hole with some traction. Maybe even use a first gear lock out and start spraying in second.
08-26-2005, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by strokedls1
A 200 shot is pretty damn damn big for a 1.8L motor. My friend ran a 75 shot and picked up a full second. He had a vtec prelude motor in his civic. I don't know about a combination circuit for all those things. We used a msd window switch that worked fine. I think you will definitely need a progressive controler to get it out of hole with some traction. Maybe even use a first gear lock out and start spraying in second.
08-26-2005, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by red90cobra
i don't believe there's anything that controls timing and has a progressive controller. what are you tunning the motor with?
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I would NX Maximizer II, and or maybe a pro controller from Schnitz?? I beleive your buildup could handle it, theres some running similar here, if I can talk with them will let you know.
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08-27-2005, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by red90cobra
what kind of power does it make on motor I'm just curious
Originally Posted by baldurann
Contact PsycoSystems on Houston-Imports.com, he has/had a built civic running quite a large shot (north or 200.)
08-27-2005, 01:05 PM
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Do a 75shot wet through your single nozzle (your 125 shot on a single nozzle is fuel puddle suicide for the record) through first gear, then hose it down with a 125-175 shot (whatever you feel safe with) through a direct port system in 2nd-4th with the first stage as well. Use 24.5 tall slicks and you will be golden. If your hardcore like me, youll have a 50 shot dry on there as well just incase. 
My car goes 13.2 on motor only... But its a 2.1L with low CR and the car weighs 1900lbs. 
Yes a honda civic. 
SShhhhhh.... She's sleepin right now.
My car goes 13.2 on motor only... But its a 2.1L with low CR and the car weighs 1900lbs. Yes a honda civic. SShhhhhh.... She's sleepin right now.
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24.5 would be to small of a tire. I would go with m & h 25" sliks with traction bars in front so you wont pull the front suspension forward. for tunning you need to get a hondata (spelling) get the latest one, its got two step, has many fetures for nitrous setups. do a search in google see who tuns with hondata.
for shot that big you cant tap into your fuel system, you will take away fule from injectors. timming would be around 22*. if you were local i would taken you a shop. (first 9 second honda on motor the girls car). on firiends car with h22 w/75 shot ran best of 11.7@117 on 1.61 60'.
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for shot that big you cant tap into your fuel system, you will take away fule from injectors. timming would be around 22*. if you were local i would taken you a shop. (first 9 second honda on motor the girls car). on firiends car with h22 w/75 shot ran best of 11.7@117 on 1.61 60'.
good luck
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mah boy uses a slick *** dun 200 shot in hiz civic and it runs so tite yo. Man this thang smokes me on da street it must run like 7's or sumtin. so tite playa. he has the bottle installed on hiz passenga seat and just rans a line ups to the intake and all he does is open the bottle by hand wen he wants to sprays it. Bro this setup is mad tite dun guy. he can open it a lil bit for a smaller shot and all the way for a monsta shot, holla!
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Why do you think fuel puddling is an issue with a single fogger 125 wet shot?
There are several B series and H22 motors spraying over 100 shot through a single fogger up here with no problems.
Not to mention I question the whole "fuel puddling" exscuse that a lot of people are quick to use. But that is a different thread.
BTW, RZ, I think your goal of 200 shot is totally realistic. I have been impressed by how much power you can get out of those blocks and they still hold together.
Keep us posted on your progress.
There are several B series and H22 motors spraying over 100 shot through a single fogger up here with no problems.
Not to mention I question the whole "fuel puddling" exscuse that a lot of people are quick to use. But that is a different thread.
BTW, RZ, I think your goal of 200 shot is totally realistic. I have been impressed by how much power you can get out of those blocks and they still hold together.
Keep us posted on your progress.
Originally Posted by v8-7
Do a 75shot wet through your single nozzle (your 125 shot on a single nozzle is fuel puddle suicide for the record) through first gear, then hose it down with a 125-175 shot (whatever you feel safe with) through a direct port system in 2nd-4th with the first stage as well. Use 24.5 tall slicks and you will be golden. If your hardcore like me, youll have a 50 shot dry on there as well just incase. My car goes 13.2 on motor only... But its a 2.1L with low CR and the car weighs 1900lbs. Yes a honda civic.
SShhhhhh.... She's sleepin right now.
My car goes 13.2 on motor only... But its a 2.1L with low CR and the car weighs 1900lbs. Yes a honda civic. SShhhhhh.... She's sleepin right now.
08-29-2005, 07:18 PM
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Its just my personal prefference not to run more than 100shot wet through a single nozzle wet kit. The bigger the shot, the more fuel you are running through it. The more fuel running through it,,, the greater a chance for puddling to occur quicker than it would with a smaller shot. Plus, thats just my first stage, and anyone will tell you that 100 shot without a controller is fun enough to try and hook in 1st gear.
08-29-2005, 10:28 PM
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Its just my personal prefference not to run more than 100shot wet through a single nozzle wet kit. The bigger the shot, the more fuel you are running through it. The more fuel running through it,,, the greater a chance for puddling to occur quicker than it would with a smaller shot. Plus, thats just my first stage, and anyone will tell you that 100 shot without a controller is fun enough to try and hook in 1st gear.
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