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01-25-2011, 06:43 PM
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Hpt? is hpt the better of the tuners out there or just the easiest to use? Just curious about to make a purchase, wondering whats best bang for buck thanks Ross
01-25-2011, 07:06 PM
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We like to consider ours the best system on the market and while there might be cheaper options out there I think you'll be hardpressed to find a more complete one at a comparable price.
$649 gets you a pro interface, enough credits to tune up to 4 vehicles off the bat, a high end fully adjustable scanner software, custom operating systems, a huge list of supported vehicles that not only includes GM but Ford as well and we are always adding support for new vehicles so no matter which direction you are headed for the future theres a good chance we'll support it.
If you'd like a copy of our demo software shoot me an email at support at hptuners.com and I'll send it your way so you can try before you buy.
I think you'll find our GUI(graphic user interface) the most pleasing yet very functional.
-Bill
$649 gets you a pro interface, enough credits to tune up to 4 vehicles off the bat, a high end fully adjustable scanner software, custom operating systems, a huge list of supported vehicles that not only includes GM but Ford as well and we are always adding support for new vehicles so no matter which direction you are headed for the future theres a good chance we'll support it.
If you'd like a copy of our demo software shoot me an email at support at hptuners.com and I'll send it your way so you can try before you buy.
I think you'll find our GUI(graphic user interface) the most pleasing yet very functional.
-Bill
01-26-2011, 01:45 AM
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I prefer HPtuners over EFILive and LS1edit, but it mostly comes down to user preference.. Especially between HPTuners and EFILive.
Both are easy to use, both do the same stuff. IMO though, there is more support for HPtuners both via HPTuners themselves and also through other users.
Both are easy to use, both do the same stuff. IMO though, there is more support for HPtuners both via HPTuners themselves and also through other users.
01-26-2011, 05:11 PM
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hp tuner Thanks for the help, i ran hp on my supercharged cavalier and we have efi live on our shop truck im just not that impressed with the efi live. Believe ill do hp again.
01-26-2011, 06:37 PM
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01-27-2011, 01:33 PM
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01-27-2011, 03:07 PM
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As for the "free" custom operating systems, that free comes with a price tag of an additional $150 upon initial purchase and in some cases no custom operating systems available at all for some applications ie 2006+ trucks which they've stated it comes down to demand. We just happen to put a credit association with it so we can get our R&D costs back in some way other than having to sell one more interface for an $800 price tag. Its really a toss up IMO when it comes to those things as you are obviously paying to get these additional features no doubt about that. You are just paying in different ways.
-Bill
01-27-2011, 03:45 PM
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Just to clear up some of the confusion then, what segments swaps can HPT do for us customers other than trans segment swaps.
When I asked about different fuel segments swaps a few months ago I was told that you could not (or would not) do that anymore, so I had to do it with EFI.
Don’t get me wrong I like my HP Tuners and the support is great I always get fast professional responses. I can get more licenses fast thru HTP online order system at any time of the day or night.
I know you guys are working very hard on the new version but it’s been almost 3 years in April since the general public has seen an update to the HP Tuners software.
When I asked about different fuel segments swaps a few months ago I was told that you could not (or would not) do that anymore, so I had to do it with EFI.
Don’t get me wrong I like my HP Tuners and the support is great I always get fast professional responses. I can get more licenses fast thru HTP online order system at any time of the day or night.
I know you guys are working very hard on the new version but it’s been almost 3 years in April since the general public has seen an update to the HP Tuners software.
01-27-2011, 05:12 PM
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Fuel & trans http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26515
As for public releases we haven't fallen asleep at the wheel, we've just been in beta for a while, that doesn't mean we aren't working hard though, here is the email I send out with all the betas showing the recent work & items we've added:
So yeah while we've been in beta for quite a while its not because we've wanted to be nor has it been because we've been sitting back not doing anything. We've had issues with switching over to the newer net framework, installshield, etc that have all pushed out timeframes back.
Trust me we want to roll out 2.24 faster than everyone wants it pushed out but sometimes there are 3rd party issues that have held us back as well.
-Bill
As for public releases we haven't fallen asleep at the wheel, we've just been in beta for a while, that doesn't mean we aren't working hard though, here is the email I send out with all the betas showing the recent work & items we've added:
This beta adds several new features for several platforms
All platforms receive
New Editor code
New Scanner code
Added read support for 2009 Ford Fseries Strategy TENF1
New operating systems supported
L4
16253010
16259676
12225336
12206016
9382944
9364978
12223048
9365314
9364968
9356822
16254760
16254761
16267102
16254731
P11
12583785
12218881
P12
12597424
97 V6
16257531
16253031
P04
9374770
9352742
9389353
9352757
12218400
12223490
12578500
12223490
12201687
12618883
9376662
9389259
12573407
12584933
12226103
12221348
12218171
12203659
12211256
P05
12581052
98 LS1 V8
9355168
E37
12610011
12618032
12635865
12628829
12630187
12628960
E38
12635859
12636005
12635863
12639835
12628982
12639270
E69
12629314
T43
24253414
24254909
24252573
T42
24243902
24252617
24252956
24243356
A40
15878459
25982141
E67
12636036
12639469
Ford
HABND
HABS2
HACCE
HACCD
HADCD
HADCE
HADCK
HAEDG
HAEDD
HAEDH
HAAMC
HAAMG
HACCK
HACH3
HAAS2
HAAS4
HAAP9
HACHD
FBMR1
HACE8
HACE3
HAAT0
HAAT2
FPBF2
FBBT0
FBCE0
HAFDF
HAFDJ
HAFFA
TENF1
FPBX1
FBCE2
FEBF1
HAEE4
FOAR0
Dodge
05030232AE
P12 pcm’s receive
To and from cobalt ss/sc unable to connect error fix
E77/E69 pcm's receive
Several overboost/underboost condition diagnositic test tables and constants
512kb & 1024kb LS1 platforms received
Options matrix
Platform type switch
Fan recirc switch
TPS High & Low fail constants
About a dozen new rolling idle tables and constants
IAT Scalar table
512kb LS1 pcm’s received
Cranking spark table
E38 & E67 pcm’s received
Roughly 50 new tables described here http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28498
The following E38 os id’s received 1-2.5 bar vcm enhancement:
12612381
12639270
12633056
12635863
12605732
12614676
12612281
12617631
12628990
12624402
12633016
E38 Starter check patch applied to:
12614676
12614088
E38 P2101 Throttle parameters added for
12617631
All E38 operating systems receive the following speed limiter constants
Speed Limiter 4WD Low
Speed Limiter Comms Fail
Speed Limiter Steering Fail
Speed Limiter Minimum
Speed Limiter ETC Fail
E67 OS id 19211212 received 1-2.5 bar vcm enhancement addition
E67 pcm's can now perform write calibration only without error
All E40 os’s receive cranking spark table
E40 os’s 12596734 & 12596660 received
P2101 Throttle tolerance params
T43 TCM's received a major 150+ table update including TM & TCC lockup tables requested
E37 support released
GMPP E67 pcm support released
2009+ Allison TCM support released
2010-11 Camaro V8 ECM/TCM support released
2009-11 Corvette ECM/TCM support released
2009-10 Mustang V8 ECM support released
2009-10 Savana/Express V8 gas support released
2009 G8 V8 support released
2002-2011 Ford BA, BF & FG support released
97-04 V6 pcm’s
Received several open loop and injector tables added to all 700+ operating systems
Ford credit licenses lowered to 2 credits for single vcm licenses
Ford Scanner rate updates for faster scanning
Dodge Licensing is finished and awaiting final Firmware updates which have been pushed back until after the 2.24 public release for the sake of keeping the beta stable.
This Beta also produces a new Debug.dat file found in your hptuners-settings folder, this should help with editor and scanner comms problems
This Beta also can produce an hptuners crash log if the software crashes for some reason. To save the crash log click send report, then retry, then save report in the crash pop up form. This will be used to easily track and fix any crashes in the software.
All platforms receive
New Editor code
New Scanner code
Added read support for 2009 Ford Fseries Strategy TENF1
New operating systems supported
L4
16253010
16259676
12225336
12206016
9382944
9364978
12223048
9365314
9364968
9356822
16254760
16254761
16267102
16254731
P11
12583785
12218881
P12
12597424
97 V6
16257531
16253031
P04
9374770
9352742
9389353
9352757
12218400
12223490
12578500
12223490
12201687
12618883
9376662
9389259
12573407
12584933
12226103
12221348
12218171
12203659
12211256
P05
12581052
98 LS1 V8
9355168
E37
12610011
12618032
12635865
12628829
12630187
12628960
E38
12635859
12636005
12635863
12639835
12628982
12639270
E69
12629314
T43
24253414
24254909
24252573
T42
24243902
24252617
24252956
24243356
A40
15878459
25982141
E67
12636036
12639469
Ford
HABND
HABS2
HACCE
HACCD
HADCD
HADCE
HADCK
HAEDG
HAEDD
HAEDH
HAAMC
HAAMG
HACCK
HACH3
HAAS2
HAAS4
HAAP9
HACHD
FBMR1
HACE8
HACE3
HAAT0
HAAT2
FPBF2
FBBT0
FBCE0
HAFDF
HAFDJ
HAFFA
TENF1
FPBX1
FBCE2
FEBF1
HAEE4
FOAR0
Dodge
05030232AE
P12 pcm’s receive
To and from cobalt ss/sc unable to connect error fix
E77/E69 pcm's receive
Several overboost/underboost condition diagnositic test tables and constants
512kb & 1024kb LS1 platforms received
Options matrix
Platform type switch
Fan recirc switch
TPS High & Low fail constants
About a dozen new rolling idle tables and constants
IAT Scalar table
512kb LS1 pcm’s received
Cranking spark table
E38 & E67 pcm’s received
Roughly 50 new tables described here http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28498
The following E38 os id’s received 1-2.5 bar vcm enhancement:
12612381
12639270
12633056
12635863
12605732
12614676
12612281
12617631
12628990
12624402
12633016
E38 Starter check patch applied to:
12614676
12614088
E38 P2101 Throttle parameters added for
12617631
All E38 operating systems receive the following speed limiter constants
Speed Limiter 4WD Low
Speed Limiter Comms Fail
Speed Limiter Steering Fail
Speed Limiter Minimum
Speed Limiter ETC Fail
E67 OS id 19211212 received 1-2.5 bar vcm enhancement addition
E67 pcm's can now perform write calibration only without error
All E40 os’s receive cranking spark table
E40 os’s 12596734 & 12596660 received
P2101 Throttle tolerance params
T43 TCM's received a major 150+ table update including TM & TCC lockup tables requested
E37 support released
GMPP E67 pcm support released
2009+ Allison TCM support released
2010-11 Camaro V8 ECM/TCM support released
2009-11 Corvette ECM/TCM support released
2009-10 Mustang V8 ECM support released
2009-10 Savana/Express V8 gas support released
2009 G8 V8 support released
2002-2011 Ford BA, BF & FG support released
97-04 V6 pcm’s
Received several open loop and injector tables added to all 700+ operating systems
Ford credit licenses lowered to 2 credits for single vcm licenses
Ford Scanner rate updates for faster scanning
Dodge Licensing is finished and awaiting final Firmware updates which have been pushed back until after the 2.24 public release for the sake of keeping the beta stable.
This Beta also produces a new Debug.dat file found in your hptuners-settings folder, this should help with editor and scanner comms problems
This Beta also can produce an hptuners crash log if the software crashes for some reason. To save the crash log click send report, then retry, then save report in the crash pop up form. This will be used to easily track and fix any crashes in the software.
Trust me we want to roll out 2.24 faster than everyone wants it pushed out but sometimes there are 3rd party issues that have held us back as well.
-Bill
Last edited by foff667; 01-27-2011 at 05:29 PM.
02-15-2011, 09:36 AM
#14
I can confirm that fuel segment swap is a cosmic science to do. I tried to get it done for over a year and left it. From what I understood, only one operating system (12212156 ) can have segments changed, so I would have to change to that from my current OS and then try to get segments swapped
02-15-2011, 09:53 AM
#15
I can confirm that fuel segment swap is a cosmic science to do. I tried to get it done for over a year and left it. From what I understood, only one operating system (12212156 ) can have segments changed, so I would have to change to that from my current OS and then try to get segments swapped
We can do it for any other but finding a calibration with a compatible segment with the changes you need is the hard part.
-Bill
