PIG RICH! How to tune fuel when launching in boost?
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PIG RICH! How to tune fuel when launching in boost?
Ok, I have a 3barSD tune, 80lb inject, and Meth(on at 7psi). LQ9-4l80E, 2step(3300),3.73gear,adjt Aero FP reg, 411PCM, GT91, 4inch FMIC. HPTuner
I went to the track to get some passes. Can get 3-4psi on 2step. running 10-15psi.The car runs a 1/2sec faster if I leave idle, because if I build boost It rich out the gate, and clears at the end of the 1/8 track. I have the Boost Enrich 1.26low/1.30high. I know the FP reg adds fuel with boost, don't want the meth to come in to late due to KR. Main VE seems right. Can any one help me get a better 60ft than 1.899?
I went to the track to get some passes. Can get 3-4psi on 2step. running 10-15psi.The car runs a 1/2sec faster if I leave idle, because if I build boost It rich out the gate, and clears at the end of the 1/8 track. I have the Boost Enrich 1.26low/1.30high. I know the FP reg adds fuel with boost, don't want the meth to come in to late due to KR. Main VE seems right. Can any one help me get a better 60ft than 1.899?
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Sounds like VE tables and IFR table may be not correct.
I'm not familiar with HPT COS, does it have a boost VE table...?
( your FPR is manifold referenced, it doesn't really add fuel, it increases rail pressure with MAP to keep the injector flow rate constant (keeps the pressure difference across an injector constant), did you account for this in your IFR table...? )
I'm not familiar with HPT COS, does it have a boost VE table...?
( your FPR is manifold referenced, it doesn't really add fuel, it increases rail pressure with MAP to keep the injector flow rate constant (keeps the pressure difference across an injector constant), did you account for this in your IFR table...? )
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Do you have a log file of a run showing the AFR?
Can you post the tune?
I'm running a similar setup.
I don't use the Boost Enrichment table. just as a safety valve. I keep it slightly leaner than PE because the BE is slow to respond.
So I set up the PE and the PE Throttle table to activate PE where I want it.
Takes some fiddling to set up.
It's also a bit tricky to set up the VE table in the area you are on the two step. Because off the two step, you don't make boost there.
I went from 1.8 60ft to high 1.4 with more room for improvement.
Lastly, getting this all dialed in assumes your VE is calibrated to where actual AF on your WB matched the commanded AF in your tune throughout the run.......
Ron
Can you post the tune?
I'm running a similar setup.
I don't use the Boost Enrichment table. just as a safety valve. I keep it slightly leaner than PE because the BE is slow to respond.
So I set up the PE and the PE Throttle table to activate PE where I want it.
Takes some fiddling to set up.
It's also a bit tricky to set up the VE table in the area you are on the two step. Because off the two step, you don't make boost there.
I went from 1.8 60ft to high 1.4 with more room for improvement.
Lastly, getting this all dialed in assumes your VE is calibrated to where actual AF on your WB matched the commanded AF in your tune throughout the run.......
Ron
Last edited by RonSSNova; 11-25-2014 at 01:17 AM.
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meth comes on at about 7psi, I have 3spray nozzles. Looking at the scan the car is rich before I launch. So meth don't come on until after I move, im leaving at 3-4psi.
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I was able to look at your file.
It looks like you are at 108 kpa on the brake, that's just 1.5 psi.
I don't see a wideband in your log file?
So it's hard to see if it's rich.
It does build boost really slowly.
Everything else looks good. Timing and commanded AFR.
Can you post the tune?
Ron
It looks like you are at 108 kpa on the brake, that's just 1.5 psi.
I don't see a wideband in your log file?
So it's hard to see if it's rich.
It does build boost really slowly.
Everything else looks good. Timing and commanded AFR.
Can you post the tune?
Ron
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I was able to look at your file.
It looks like you are at 108 kpa on the brake, that's just 1.5 psi.
I don't see a wideband in your log file?
So it's hard to see if it's rich.
It does build boost really slowly.
Everything else looks good. Timing and commanded AFR.
Can you post the tune?
Ron
It looks like you are at 108 kpa on the brake, that's just 1.5 psi.
I don't see a wideband in your log file?
So it's hard to see if it's rich.
It does build boost really slowly.
Everything else looks good. Timing and commanded AFR.
Can you post the tune?
Ron
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Thanks, so to read this I need to use the little green plug on the cable? Email sent.
Last edited by MillsMotorvation; 11-28-2014 at 12:12 PM.