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Old 03-06-2006, 02:57 PM
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hey everyone, I'll be installing my pacesetter race long tubes and tsp ory with bassani cat-back along with deleting the AIR and rear o2...and i was wonder if i should get the $150 tsp mail order tune of get the $430 vinci/crane tuner?....what would u guy get? which is better? mods in sig(include the full exhaust since i'll have it in before tune)
thanx guys i just need to know which is better/worth it
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I am selling my Vinci Tuner.....

Check out my link in the Classifield section.

I'm asking $350 shipped. I bought it in July, and Vinci Just uploaded the most recent Software on it last month.

I am the original purchaser and I will give you the original reciept from vinci, so you can keep it.

My Vinci Tuner Ad On Ls1tech (check my trader feedback)
Old 03-07-2006, 05:41 AM
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hmmm maybe, but after i get a few responses on which is better for me.....oh btw i'll be adding a stall converter in a couple months
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If you are going with many mods I would buy EFILive or HPTuners and learn to tune yourself IMO.

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i don't have the money or resourses to do that. I just need to know which is the best buy cause i'll be getting either one next friday
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???....anybody with the TSP tune please share your thoughts.....and peeps with the vinci tuner please share your thoughts
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I would like to know as well..
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I don't think you can turn off codes with Vinci's tuner, such as A.I.R..
I am in the same boat as you. I want to turn off my rear o2, a.i.r, and such..
The hptuner is $500 which allows you to basically do anything you want to your pcm.
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Originally Posted by Transgression
???....anybody with the TSP tune please share your thoughts.....and peeps with the vinci tuner please share your thoughts

Jason is very good at his work. I feel that if you send your pcm to him you will be happy with the outcome.

BTW he did my tune for my custom 408.
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I've got the Crane/Vinci tuner, I just did my cam install yesterday and retuned. I still can't get the car to idle. I'm going to play with it a little more, but I think I'm going to need a custom tune.
It did fine for just bolt-ons, but I bought it because it was supposed to tune for performance cams. I'm not impressed so far.
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TSP hands down. hand held tuner come on, really now.
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Originally Posted by Black04A4
I've got the Crane/Vinci tuner, I just did my cam install yesterday and retuned. I still can't get the car to idle. I'm going to play with it a little more, but I think I'm going to need a custom tune.
It did fine for just bolt-ons, but I bought it because it was supposed to tune for performance cams. I'm not impressed so far.

what cam do you have and what CAM tune are you using. to get the wife's car to idle with the 062 cam, i ended up using CAM #3. that one and CAM #4 have better cold start tuning integrated into them.
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Originally Posted by Black04A4
I've got the Crane/Vinci tuner, I just did my cam install yesterday and retuned. I still can't get the car to idle. I'm going to play with it a little more, but I think I'm going to need a custom tune.
It did fine for just bolt-ons, but I bought it because it was supposed to tune for performance cams. I'm not impressed so far.
What are the cam specs? When you unlock the pcm, it takes some time to learn the idle with a camshaft. You will notice that the idle will get better the more you drive it. Your wot settings are immediate and it will learn the part throttle and idle. Drive the vehicle. If I knew what your specs are, I could give you a starting point on the presets. Joe.
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Originally Posted by Joe Vinci
What are the cam specs? When you unlock the pcm, it takes some time to learn the idle with a camshaft. You will notice that the idle will get better the more you drive it. Your wot settings are immediate and it will learn the part throttle and idle. Drive the vehicle. If I knew what your specs are, I could give you a starting point on the presets. Joe.
The cam specs are 220*/224* @ .050" .530"/.534" 112 lsa, 1.7 rockers, I set it up on Cam 3 and added 150 rpm to the idle, it seems to be getting better with time, but I'm not sure it will ever be "right". Is there anything else to be changed?
The tuner has been great for my needs so far with all bolt-ons, I'm not trying to bash the tuner, I just don't know if the cam profile I chose will ever run right with one of these tunes. I'll appreciate any suggestions.

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i had it on cam #3 with 100 rpm increase. it will get better with time for learning idle. after about 3 days or so of driving, it settled in. also, when you make a change, it may have to relearn the idle as you have made parameter changes.
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Thanks mrr23, I'll give it a little more time and see what happens.




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