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Old 04-04-2008, 03:14 PM
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Guys, forgive me for not even attempting a search. I am trying to get some info for my buddy. He bought some Ruff racing wheels and the offset is dead nuts right for the car, but the fender still knicks the tire after the body shop did a shave on the lip. I dont know much about these cars, but it sounds like a pain in the ***. The tire size is 275/40?/18, with a nitto (non drag). Are you rolling the fenders and getting any extra flare at the base, or what the hell do you do to get comforable clearance on the fender? I think the body shop doesnt have a good fix, he asked them to roll the fender and they cut the lip with an air saw. It looks fine, but not the method I was expecting. Shed some light on GTO tire fitment for me please. Unless there is a way to get this to work with very little massaging, I am going to mini tub the bitch.

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No mini tubs because of IRS. Maybe the offset isn't enough on those rims.
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Said that he talked with ruff and they are very familiar with the tight fit on gtos. When the suspension is loaded, there is roughly 1/2-3/4" clear on the inside of the wheel to inner fender. Can you not move the sheetmetal even an 2" or so without issues with the IRS? Not that its something I want to have to do. But will if we can gain any real room to put a 285/295 in there.
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Go to LS1GTO.com and do a search for "widest or biggest rim for the rear".
There have been guys doing the hammer mod to the inner fender. Check the drag racing section.
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Thanks. I think we are going to cut and move the inner fender inward. Looks like the only thing you really have to move is the upper shock mount. And notch the control arm. Time consuming process as a whole, but not very hard.
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Ley me know the outcome, I am interested in wider rear wheels and tires too.
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Believe me I've gone through quite the gamit when it comes to wheels and tires for the goat. Right now i'm running 19x9.5's w/a 40mm offset w/275's in the rear w/no issues and 19x8.5's w/a 35mm offset in the front. Now w/that crazy offset I thought there would be some definite rubbing. What I got was a perfect fit, I'm only running about 5lbs. in the drag bags and have never once rubbed. If at all possible see if he could shave off 5-7mm off the back, if not get a set of dragbags for 90 bucks from speedinc... Keep us posted.
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295's? No, maybe with some tires that run more narrow than most others.

18" wheels with 48mm offset, same as your buds. I'm running 285/35/18's Goodyear GS-D3's which run wider than most tires. I've ground off my fender lips, had the cradles aligned, running Pedders 5/16" raise drag springs, x-member bushings, beat the inner fenderwells in some, etc. They still rub a little, they are just too tall it seems. They don't rub on the the sidewalls of the tires but on the tread, must be bottoming out when the car squats hard. My bud and me may try to mini tub his 04 since his other 04 is already done, if it works I'll do mine.

The only way I've seen people fit a 295 on without a lot of work is some Pedders 1" raise springs or like 35lbs in some BMR drag bags. I've seen a few poeple pay to have a body shop pull the fender out about an inch, or have some type of wide body kit put on, but that's some $$$ right there. Other than that a 295 on a proper sized wheel (9.5"-10" wide) will not fit on these cars without some work. Though it can be done... 52mm offset wheel, cut the fender lips compleatly off, Pedders 5/16" drag springs, notch control arms, beat the living F out of the inner fenderwell, relocate the shocks and prey to whoever you pray to.

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check your shocks, make sure they are not old and weak. mine gave out at 50,000 miles 04 goat. also i am thinking of replacing my factory weak springs for pedders suspension o.e springs.
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I never said 295, I said 285. But I am going to go ahead and make 315s fit. Yes it can be done. Probably be a month or two, but it will work.

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295's? No, maybe with some tires that run more narrow than most others.

18" wheels with 48mm offset, same as your buds. I'm running 285/35/18's Goodyear GS-D3's which run wider than most tires. I've ground off my fender lips, had the cradles aligned, running Pedders 5/16" raise drag springs, x-member bushings, beat the inner fenderwells in some, etc. They still rub a little, they are just too tall it seems. They don't rub on the the sidewalls of the tires but on the tread, must be bottoming out when the car squats hard. My bud and me may try to mini tub his 04 since his other 04 is already done, if it works I'll do mine.

The only way I've seen people fit a 295 on without a lot of work is some Pedders 1" raise springs or like 35lbs in some BMR drag bags. I've seen a few poeple pay to have a body shop pull the fender out about an inch, or have some type of wide body kit put on, but that's some $$$ right there. Other than that a 295 on a proper sized wheel (9.5"-10" wide) will not fit on these cars without some work. Though it can be done... 52mm offset wheel, cut the fender lips compleatly off, Pedders 5/16" drag springs, notch control arms, beat the living F out of the inner fenderwell, relocate the shocks and prey to whoever you pray to.

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Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
Said that he talked with ruff and they are very familiar with the tight fit on gtos. When the suspension is loaded, there is roughly 1/2-3/4" clear on the inside of the wheel to inner fender. Can you not move the sheetmetal even an 2" or so without issues with the IRS? Not that its something I want to have to do. But will if we can gain any real room to put a 285/295 in there.
Hmmmmmmmmm....

Originally Posted by xfactor_pitbulls
I never said 295, I said 285. But I am going to go ahead and make 315s fit. Yes it can be done. Probably be a month or two, but it will work.
Tubs and sold rear end, or mini tubs and wide body kit?
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Originally Posted by PapaSmurf2005
Hmmmmmmmmm....


Tubs and sold rear end, or mini tubs and wide body kit?
Not really mini tubs, just cutting the inner fender loose, removing about a 2" strip and grafting it back after moving it the 2" gap. Widening the wheels 1" on the inside of the wheel and leaving the backspace basically the same. Might shave 3mm or so off of it. No widebody.



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