year one, carl black - 380HP?????
06-06-2007, 11:59 AM
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year one, carl black - store it OR drive it?? good day to all. i just bought a 2002 formula WS6 year one- carl black edition . cant seem to find much about it anywhere except a few pics on the actual year-one site. any info on this model would be great (what MODS made this car put out 380hp / 400 ft lbs? etc etc). thanx in advance - john
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06-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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Have you checked the GMMG website? As I remember, they did all the Carl Black Firebirds.
www.gmmginc.net
www.gmmginc.net
06-06-2007, 06:00 PM
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If I remember correctly, I think there was an article in one of the back issues of GM High Tech shortly after that car came out. You may check with them, and you may ge able to order a copy of that issue.
06-06-2007, 11:14 PM
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Lucky bastard.I had a buddy that had one about 3 years ago.It was also a Year-One Formula BB,black with a red stripe down the sides.He got lucky and bought from a Carmaxx,and they thought it was just a regular firebird.
06-07-2007, 02:50 PM
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nobody knew what mine was either. i realized something was different when i saw the stripe that said '380HP' on the side, thats when i did my homework.
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
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http://www.yearone.com/enthusiast/ar...la/formula.asp
There is the formula version, I can't find the regular TA section. Its the same setup though.
There is the formula version, I can't find the regular TA section. Its the same setup though.
06-07-2007, 03:43 PM
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year one, carl black - 380HP?????
Originally Posted by Big Bad John
nobody knew what mine was either. i realized something was different when i saw the stripe that said '380HP' on the side, thats when i did my homework.
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
Here is what they have posted in their website regarding the Carl Black BlackBird WS6:
.:: PACKAGE CONTENTS
380hp/400tq Package
Cat Back Chambered Exhaust
High Flow Air Box Lid w/Black Bird Decal
Progressive Rate Eibach Lowering Springs
Torq-Thrust II 17" ARE Wheels
Dimpled Front & Rear Rotors
Dual Hood Accent Stripes
Black Hurst Shift Ball
Short Throw Shift Stick
Metallic Silver Rear Lower Panel
Black Bird Numbered Key Fobs
Car Cover with Black Bird Logo
Black Bird Cloisonné Fender Badging
All New Silver Face Gauges
Black Bird Floor Mats
Car Number on Windshield and Rearview Mirror
Rearview Mirror with Compass and Auto-Dimmer
Mobil 1 Oil Fill Cap & Decal
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Originally Posted by Big Bad John
nobody knew what mine was either. i realized something was different when i saw the stripe that said '380HP' on the side, thats when i did my homework.
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
HOWEVER...... i CANT seem to find anything that explains HOW they make 380, as opposed to the 325 of a normal WS6. i know they have catback exhaust, but that cant account for the extra 55hp. so what else is modified? year one doesnt say. anybody??????
THE LOOKS add the 55 HP . LOL
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man,,exactlly what i was thinkin,,is it the floor mats, or the white gauges,,or maybe the special decals that give it the extra horses!?!?!? Nice find though.
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Extra HP.
Originally Posted by 5301113
THE LOOKS add the 55 HP . LOL
Oh by the way NO PICS??????????????????????????? 
06-08-2007, 06:51 PM
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I dont know if you got your question answered about the power. The 380 comes strictly from the catback and lid, reason being is CB knew that the LS1's were underrated and then rated them properly with their new additions. Stock LS1's actually make 345-350 HP so a lid and catback can potentially add 30 HP to the crank.
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Originally Posted by Big Bad John
i cant figure out how to post pics on here.
anyone know how many of the year one formulas were made?
anyone know how many of the year one formulas were made?
Not sure on the trans ams though, give GMMG a call and they can tell you. Thats what I had to do when I purchased mine, nobody else could tell me (not even CBP, the guy who did the blackbirds is no longer working there and nobody else has any clue as to what they are).
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Originally Posted by Trust
I dont know if you got your question answered about the power. The 380 comes strictly from the catback and lid, reason being is CB knew that the LS1's were underrated and then rated them properly with their new additions. Stock LS1's actually make 345-350 HP so a lid and catback can potentially add 30 HP to the crank.
06-09-2007, 01:51 PM
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here are some pics (if they turn out)
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_2021.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_2002.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_1998.jpg
You like? car makes sexy time?
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_2021.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_2002.jpg
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...l/100_1998.jpg
You like? car makes sexy time?