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Old 01-15-2005, 07:31 AM
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Default Damn. I can't believe I'm askin you guys If I have to worry about a NEON? GRRR

There is a NEON SRT4 Pushing well over 400 HP that's current best time before his most recent mods was 11.6 at 124 and with current mods should take him to 10.99

This neon keeps beating on Z06 H/C cars all the time. I've seen the clips.

I did say I wouldn't run on the street because I know my 10 bolt will snap on first launch at the track.

Do I have anything to worry about with a Neon that is now supposedly going to run an 10.99.
I just ordered
1. HP tuners Software,
2. New Stock Replacement MAF (old one throwin low voltage codes)
3. In Two weeks I pick up a set of the Original Stainless Steel SLP LT's
For Now though are these 3 things enough to beat him? I drive and shift very well.

Even with the 383 shortblock East Side built for me. Eagle Crank, Eagle H-Beam Rods (6.2") and JE Flat Top Pistons my compression is still stock so I should be good as NA for now right?

1. until I switch to 225cc AFR Mongoose heads with 76cc chambers. I"m kinda holdin off on those heads because I want to pick the best valvetrain: lifter, rocker, valve, spring, etc etc. Most reliable and durable even at high RPM)
2. I also haven't set my mind on a Turbo CAM yet. Ligenfilter Turbo Has this GT 2-3 Cam or what ever I want to look into.

I do have it narrowed down to 2 Turbo kits I want. Either Pham Speed or the one HP Performance is working on..
Pham has a complete kit for sale but doesn't come with a Front mount yet.

So I would have to wait till they have a complete kit including front mount.
Also The HP performance kits are going to be awesome but once again I have o wait.

Either way I gotta find some Power and make sure I'm deep into the 11's or high 10's. Especially since we'll be on the highway or street..
Right now I'm putting down 400/440.

I would think with LT's I would gain another 40 eh?

Hell even an LSX intake manifold and 90 mm Throttlebody is like over $1000 isn't it. For that price I might as well get heads. LOL See I know I want to end up with this intake manifold and TB when I'm done so I really don't see a point in buying a used LS6 intake manifold right away and then selling it later.

Any Advice guys. I'm all eyes and ears!
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Well, your post was kinda scattered and hard to understand... but what I got from it is that you make 400/440 right now at the wheels, and you're installing LT headers which you're expecting 40 extra HP from (which I kinda doubt).

And your question is, can you beat an SRT-4 that beats H/C Z06s and runs high 10s... ?

I vote no, you can't.
Old 01-15-2005, 02:06 PM
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werd your hp is simillar and you are a little heavier if im right and he is FWD so less power loss through the drivetrain so i vot for NO as well
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I vote your gonna get MANGLED hardcore.
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I dont like being negative, but i really doubt ur going to kick his ***, unless you go from a roll maybe.. i really dont know
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Originally Posted by WhiteTXMach
I vote your gonna get MANGLED hardcore.
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He was trapping 124mph and running 11.6s, and his current mods should take him to 10.9Xs? You're beat.
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Srt in the 10s? I'd have to see it to believe it.

What are his supposed mods that will take him from 11.6 to the high 10s? Some ET streets and a rwd conversion?

Srt List I figure if there was a 10 second SRT it would be here. But then again, I'm just internet racing.

On a side note. 11.6@12x and he beats H/C Z06s...hmm.....
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IF all your info is correct, you're done. no go my man. see if you can borrow 1dirtyZ's car.
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get those heads and a good rearend and teh bottle then see if he wants to play form a dig

did i mention those cars suck from a dig
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Originally Posted by Velocity
Well, your post was kinda scattered and hard to understand... but what I got from it is that you make 400/440 right now at the wheels, and you're installing LT headers which you're expecting 40 extra HP from (which I kinda doubt).

And your question is, can you beat an SRT-4 that beats H/C Z06s and runs high 10s... ?

I vote no, you can't.
Well it hasn't run High 10's yet.. He ran 11.64@125. Apparently he has modded again and should be good for 10's.

I think it'll be a hell of a race.
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Originally Posted by SlomaroZ28
Srt in the 10s? I'd have to see it to believe it.

What are his supposed mods that will take him from 11.6 to the high 10s? Some ET streets and a rwd conversion?

Srt List I figure if there was a 10 second SRT it would be here. But then again, I'm just internet racing.

On a side note. 11.6@12x and he beats H/C Z06s...hmm.....



H/C Z06 should break well into low 11s. High 10s in a neon..got a video?


I like the saying "Racing in a Neon is like racing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded" - I replaced Honda with Neon

If he is running that fast hes spent alot of money on doing so.
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Originally Posted by 2MuchRiceMakesMeSick


H/C Z06 should break well into low 11s. High 10s in a neon..got a video?


I like the saying "Racing in a Neon is like racing in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded" - I replaced Honda with Neon

If he is running that fast hes spent alot of money on doing so.
I know it's wrong to talk **** on people but the first time I razzed him. I did tell him even if he does beat me he'll still be driving home in a Neon.

Either way I think the clip I saw was his Neon running that 11.6@125 or something like that. The car definately is fast.

I'm lookin forward to runnin him though.. It's been really hyped up to so If I can talk him into running on the street We gotta get it video taped..
Old 01-15-2005, 05:36 PM
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What have you run? Maybe I missed it, but seems like a good place to start to see how close it will be either way.
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I have my doubts about a Neon running high 10's, but hey...you never know.
Even if he runs 11.6's @ 125mph, he's going to severly rape you.
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If this isn't the car http://dyno-works.com/Video.html then I vote he's full of . That is unless he pulled the srt4 motor and threw in something different. I'm not saying he won't still be fast enough to beat you though. Just not fast enough to run what he says he does. BTW there are plenty of srt4s that break 400 horse and dont run 10s.

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Originally Posted by King02SS
If this isn't the car http://dyno-works.com/Video.html then I vote he's full of . That is unless he pulled the srt4 motor and threw in something different. I'm not saying he won't still be fast enough to beat you though. Just not fast enough to run what he says he does.
Well that's not his car. LOL However I'll admit that car was fast as hell but did you hear it? I'm sorry man. I shouldn't be razzin a car that is obviously faster but It sounded like immodium AD got left at home.
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Originally Posted by D3IMOS
Well that's not his car. LOL However I'll admit that car was fast as hell but did you hear it? I'm sorry man. I shouldn't be razzin a car that is obviously faster but It sounded like immodium AD got left at home.
Btw that car boasts 542 wheel now and it's running an supposed 11.1 so he needs more than 400 ponies to hit 10s. In a street car form that is.
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Yeah I'm not to concerned anymore. I think it'll all work out.
There has to be some limitations ya know. Half the cylinders and that much boost. Gotta be a brick wall at one point where Cubes matter.
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Originally Posted by King02SS
If this isn't the car http://dyno-works.com/Video.html then I vote he's full of . That is unless he pulled the srt4 motor and threw in something different. I'm not saying he won't still be fast enough to beat you though. Just not fast enough to run what he says he does. BTW there are plenty of srt4s that break 400 horse and dont run 10s.

I was at the track when that car ran down at LACR. That car is a beast. A 10 Sec. SRT4 I don't think would be in street trim (I havent seen one). Definatley if he is running 10's you would know it right off the bat. Just like if you saw a 9 or 8 sec. LS1. It's a no brainer. I believe the car is fast because you are doubting the SRT. Good luck chasing that skittle...



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