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Old 02-07-2006, 02:11 PM
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i was cruisin in davenport running errands and i notice this sweet little black car. i thought ferrari at first and just wanted to get a look at the car. don't see to many high end imports around here. i switch lanes and follow him to a parking lot and get out to ask the guy about the car, and he's a real snob. long story short, he won't race me but i thought it would have been sweet first street race even if he was faster than me. oh well i guess i'll keep looking for my first race!
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You would take him down low with him doing ok on the top end, all in all, you owuld prolly walk slowly away up top and hurt his pride down low, if you can launch.
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I have a friend who owns one and it's a mid 13 second car. You should be able to take one if the driver isn't that great as they are really tricky to get off of the line without either bogging the engine or spinning the tires too much.
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I raced one with my 02' Camaro SS A4 from a dig and then rolling at 30 MPH and I pulled about 2 to 3 cars on him both times. I had a lid and a cutout when I raced it.
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not bad for a 4-banger was it ? lol, them are some mean buggers in the twisties
Old 02-17-2006, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
You would take him down low with him doing ok on the top end, all in all, you owuld prolly walk slowly away up top and hurt his pride down low, if you can launch.
eh????

They just Esprit, they never siad which one. The latter GT and GT3 cars the 2.2 V4 Turbo and where fairly rapid considering their age of design and bhp level.

But most of the later ones where the V8 variant, with a 3.5 llitre turbo unit with 350bhp. These are very fast, but yes tricky to launch. The stripped out GT350 was even quicker. The biggest downer is the Renault gearbox they use (only one that fits in the transmission tunnel).



Engine: 3.5L/213.8 CID DOHC 32v twin turbo V8
HP: 350 @ 6500 rpm, Torque: 295 ft.-lb. @ 4250 rpm
Trans: 5M, Drivetrain: midengine/rear drive, twin-plate racing clutch
Final drive: 3.89:1
Curb weight: 3043 lb, Weight/HP ratio: 8.7
HP/liter: 100.0, Tires: f: 235/40ZR17, r: 285/40ZR18
Acceleration: 0-30 mph: 1.83 sec. 0-60 mph: 4.43 sec.
1/4 mile: 12.85 sec. @ 110.96 mph
On the same day at the same track with the same drivers a Camaro SS M6 managed 13.42 @106.15mph and Firebird Formula managed a 13.15 @ 108.27mph, for comparison

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Well it depends if it was a V8 or a I4. I4's are 13 sec cars stock but not the V8's. Although they are very difficult to launch. Just for reference, my Esprit V8 has pulled on cars that trapped 119 in the 1/4 and a Lambo Gallardo.
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I assumed we meant the one in current production...
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Actually, production ended in '04 with 33 Final Edition Esprits.
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OOooooooooooooooo crap, i confused the Elise and Esprite my fault.
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Originally Posted by GMendoza
Well it depends if it was a V8 or a I4. I4's are 13 sec cars stock but not the V8's. Although they are very difficult to launch. Just for reference, my Esprit V8 has pulled on cars that trapped 119 in the 1/4 and a Lambo Gallardo.

Bah, you just need to go back to 70% throttle.
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Originally Posted by vilkata
Bah, you just need to go back to 70% throttle.

Actually the Gallardo was ran at 70% throttle but it was still hitting full boost.
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Originally Posted by GMendoza
Actually the Gallardo was ran at 70% throttle but it was still hitting full boost.
When I get back home, I want to run you again now that you have full throttle. See how many milliseconds I can hang with you again.
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Originally Posted by vilkata
When I get back home, I want to run you again now that you have full throttle. See how many milliseconds I can hang with you again.
Fo sho, we can do this
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You may take him in a straight line, but if he's smart he'll take it to a curvy road. Lotus is a hard manufacturer to beat in the twisties. I remember a video I saw of a Elise chasing a Vette around Nurenburg, and the Vette would pull way ahead on the straights, but as soon as a curve came up the Elise was right back on it's tail.

That's what you get with a car that weigh's about half of what yours does.
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Originally Posted by GMendoza
Fo sho, we can do this
Stayed with you to 120+ last time...so I figure after you spool up you'll start walking me bad this time.
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Originally Posted by Aegnor
You may take him in a straight line, but if he's smart he'll take it to a curvy road. Lotus is a hard manufacturer to beat in the twisties.
Are you talking about a stock V8 Esprit vs a mildly modded f-body?

Originally Posted by vilkata
Stayed with you to 120+ last time...so I figure after you spool up you'll start walking me bad this time.
It does spool up quicker now.
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Originally Posted by GMendoza
Well it depends if it was a V8 or a I4.
NO

Not an inline 4, all Esprit's minus the V8 use the Ford 2.2 V4
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An Elise with a HEAVILY breathed upon engine is, in my opinion, the ultimate sports car, give it 400rwhp and it would be damn near untouchable, period.
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I raced one in 2004. (Esprit TT) It still had paper tags on it. My car at the time was around 340rwhp and I only walked him by 2 cars from 70 to 150. Even in triple digits, he didn't stop my pull. It was a cool race, because the race was his idea, and he said he was gonna destroy me.



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