bird and snake results
02-16-2007, 12:37 PM
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bird and snake results made this since theirs a problem with the other thread...
After doing a quick scout of the run area I pulled up to the agreed meeting area..
first thing i notice is that this is one beautiful firebird ( man oh man how it made me miss my C5 that was the same color)
We go over the rules of engagement and commence...
*DISCLAIMER* this is all from my perspective, do not take it as the final word. As like everything in life...opinions will vary.
race 1- we pace each other doing 40-50 for around 5 min waiting for everything to clear up. Im listening very hard for the three beep but their is none.
He revs it and then takes off. I relizing that I missed my oppertunity, dont even try and give him the win. Bird 1...Snake 0
race 2- I do the 3 beep and it seems like I may have gotten a 1/4 car on the hit. We run side by side all through my second gear and then when I hit third it seems as though I put a car or car and a half on the bird. But as Im going through third gear I see him coming back up and when we slow for traffic I feel that i was MAYBE half a car ahead at around 120 mph. But it's very hard to know for sure. Did he brake first? did I brake first? All in all a very even run and I would personally call this one a tie.Bird 1...Snake 0
race 3- this time he dose the three beeps roughly 1/2 a car in front of me and I wait till I see him hit it to ensure that i dont jump out to early...Seems like we hit it right around the same time. Half way through second gear i close the half car lead and were side by side again..Stayed that way all through second gear. then when third came I feel as if I pulled a car or so but Im not exactly sure...I was seriously caught up in the moment..
On this race Im not sure how many cars I had. All I know was that I wound out my HOLE 4TH GEAR and was doing atleaste 140 mph when the road suddenly became unfamiliar to me and through a curve. Luckily my car handles pretty decently and I made it through unscaved and still in my lane..
Like I said Im not really sure of who really won this race. he says he knew the curve was coming so he let off before i did. Im gonna give myself the win simply because I was stupid and stayed in it and dont remember him passing me..LOL Bird 1...Snake 0
race4- we start at around 50 mph off a 3 honk. Were side by side all through second and then I miss third. He puts around 3 buses on me..Bird 2 snake 1..
Well we talked on the phone and agreed that our cars were nearly 100% even..Pretty much who ever gets the jump or rows the gears better may win by a car or so...
Now i know many of you are gonna say HOW COULD A 428 RWHP SNAKE RUN WITH A 473 RWHP BIRD?????
Heres the reason I think it was so close..
1)His 473 rwhp/465rwt is Standard. Standard Im 444rwhp/488rwt
2)my dyno shop is known for giving some what lower numbers compared to the others in our area
3) My car is over 100 pounds lighter due to the heavier 408 engine in the bird, as well he had a 140 pound carmera man
But lets just say He has 30 more rwhp and i have 20 more rwt. That coupled with my car being a solid 100 pounds lighter than his as well as him having a 140 pound camera man let this be a very very close race...
Well like I said this is all my opinion and not the final word. He may feel that he was a 1/2 car ahead in certain races. It was really just that close.
After doing a quick scout of the run area I pulled up to the agreed meeting area..
first thing i notice is that this is one beautiful firebird ( man oh man how it made me miss my C5 that was the same color)
We go over the rules of engagement and commence...
*DISCLAIMER* this is all from my perspective, do not take it as the final word. As like everything in life...opinions will vary.
race 1- we pace each other doing 40-50 for around 5 min waiting for everything to clear up. Im listening very hard for the three beep but their is none.
He revs it and then takes off. I relizing that I missed my oppertunity, dont even try and give him the win. Bird 1...Snake 0
race 2- I do the 3 beep and it seems like I may have gotten a 1/4 car on the hit. We run side by side all through my second gear and then when I hit third it seems as though I put a car or car and a half on the bird. But as Im going through third gear I see him coming back up and when we slow for traffic I feel that i was MAYBE half a car ahead at around 120 mph. But it's very hard to know for sure. Did he brake first? did I brake first? All in all a very even run and I would personally call this one a tie.Bird 1...Snake 0
race 3- this time he dose the three beeps roughly 1/2 a car in front of me and I wait till I see him hit it to ensure that i dont jump out to early...Seems like we hit it right around the same time. Half way through second gear i close the half car lead and were side by side again..Stayed that way all through second gear. then when third came I feel as if I pulled a car or so but Im not exactly sure...I was seriously caught up in the moment..
On this race Im not sure how many cars I had. All I know was that I wound out my HOLE 4TH GEAR and was doing atleaste 140 mph when the road suddenly became unfamiliar to me and through a curve. Luckily my car handles pretty decently and I made it through unscaved and still in my lane..
Like I said Im not really sure of who really won this race. he says he knew the curve was coming so he let off before i did. Im gonna give myself the win simply because I was stupid and stayed in it and dont remember him passing me..LOL Bird 1...Snake 0
race4- we start at around 50 mph off a 3 honk. Were side by side all through second and then I miss third. He puts around 3 buses on me..Bird 2 snake 1..
Well we talked on the phone and agreed that our cars were nearly 100% even..Pretty much who ever gets the jump or rows the gears better may win by a car or so...
Now i know many of you are gonna say HOW COULD A 428 RWHP SNAKE RUN WITH A 473 RWHP BIRD?????
Heres the reason I think it was so close..
1)His 473 rwhp/465rwt is Standard. Standard Im 444rwhp/488rwt
2)my dyno shop is known for giving some what lower numbers compared to the others in our area
3) My car is over 100 pounds lighter due to the heavier 408 engine in the bird, as well he had a 140 pound carmera man
But lets just say He has 30 more rwhp and i have 20 more rwt. That coupled with my car being a solid 100 pounds lighter than his as well as him having a 140 pound camera man let this be a very very close race...
Well like I said this is all my opinion and not the final word. He may feel that he was a 1/2 car ahead in certain races. It was really just that close.
02-16-2007, 01:57 PM
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Good runs. Good post. Video would be neat.
that bird is a predator.. we know that much.
in the end though, you still own a viper!!! so thats a winner in my book.. lol
that bird is a predator.. we know that much.
in the end though, you still own a viper!!! so thats a winner in my book.. lol
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I will post the videos from home later today. It was good fun. and everyone can be the judge of them. I will post all that I have. Not the greatest of videos but it gets the job done. Also not to mention I had someone riding with me too. just a side note. NEVERTHE LESS GOOD and clean racing as it could be w/o a tree Love those Cali roads.
02-16-2007, 11:23 PM
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thats my boy speedboat bird prevails. hey we still love ya killemall. good runs cant wait for the vids. ur vipers still badass tho. mean sounding sucka bro.
02-17-2007, 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by g-ryde1
thats my boy speedboat bird prevails. hey we still love ya killemall. good runs cant wait for the vids. ur vipers still badass tho. mean sounding sucka bro.
Im kinda lost on your comment of speed boat prevailing?????
It was actually about the closest races you could have with us side by side..
Im hoping the video has the two main races were we both actually rowed the gears side by side..
02-17-2007, 02:41 AM
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I have been going non stop and havent been able to get them down loaded to the net.. Gryde give me a call I will see if you can upload it for me while I am at work tomarrow.. Got up top in the morning.
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On the 1st run u can here the honks on the camera but its all good. I believe that he didnt hear it cause he didnt go after the 3rd honk and I took off. I have it all on video and will post it ASAP but for now I am off to bed.
02-17-2007, 11:01 AM
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Very beleavable that i didnt hear the honks brother..Ive been wearing Army issued hearing aids for the past few years...Between a monster 408 and pretty stock 488 and my window being up I didnt hear that one. Sorry about that..
I really want to see the vids though..More than anything to see how accurrate my POV of the Events were. I want to see if I reported what actually happenned or if I got so caught up in winning that I saw what I wanted to see like I beleave 90% of racers do...
Cant wait for the vids man...
I really want to see the vids though..More than anything to see how accurrate my POV of the Events were. I want to see if I reported what actually happenned or if I got so caught up in winning that I saw what I wanted to see like I beleave 90% of racers do...
Cant wait for the vids man...
02-18-2007, 09:26 AM
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I will get the video today I am well hope I do.. I know I have been saying it and saying it. Gryde saw it yesterday. I wish my camera guy weighed 140lbs more like 175 plus my 205.
but as far as the racing goes from what I have seen in the videos they where fun. I will let you and others be the judge on the races.
but as far as the racing goes from what I have seen in the videos they where fun. I will let you and others be the judge on the races.
02-18-2007, 12:07 PM
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Damn you guys weigh that much...It's kinda funny cas I thought you guys weighed around 175 for you and 140 for your friend...
Thats why you never pick a fight with people sitting in their cars..You think your about to throw blows with a 5"7 175 pound guy and then he steps out of his car and you realize he's 5"10 and 205 pounds LOL...
For me i think it's the opposite though..Everyone always thinks im 225-240 pounds..When really Im only 210-215....
Thats why you never pick a fight with people sitting in their cars..You think your about to throw blows with a 5"7 175 pound guy and then he steps out of his car and you realize he's 5"10 and 205 pounds LOL...
For me i think it's the opposite though..Everyone always thinks im 225-240 pounds..When really Im only 210-215....