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Old 02-18-2009, 11:29 PM
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is there anyone on here that has actual proven 60's with the change of ONLY lcas...from say a BUSHING type lca to a TEFLON(spherical) rod ends such as the pic on the left.....

im wondering is it worth the money to go from a double adjustable bushing type lca to this set up
WILL it be worth the lca and better my 60'foot

maybe UMI can answer this question for me do you have proven 60ft times with the teflon over the bushing type....
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i went from a consistent 2.2 to a consistent 1.9 with UMI LCA's and the Relacation brackets, still having traction issues though hence the big 60 times
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Originally Posted by evilbeef54
i went from a consistent 2.2 to a consistent 1.9 with UMI LCA's and the Relacation brackets, still having traction issues though hence the big 60 times


Same here. Just adding the relocation brackets and the LCA's dropped me from a 2.2 down to a 1.96. Still on the stock 10 bolt leaving at 3500 or so.
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i went from a consistent 2.2 to a consistent 1.9 with UMI LCA's and the Relacation brackets, still having traction issues though hence the big 60 times
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It sounds like the rear is unloading to fast might be a spring or shock situation but another thing what I would recommend is try the second hole on the relocation bracket and doing that will allow the car not to bite so hard. If you have any other question feel free to ask and I will be glad to help, And once again thanks for choosing UMI Performance
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maybe UMI can answer the question of mine since nobody else knows
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Hello,
What do you have done (aftermarket wise) to your suspension? Leave me know and I will be more than glad to help out.
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well as of right now just the panhard bard and lcas but the bushing type...
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The bushing type depends on how much your car sees the track if you go will rod ends you will get a little road noise. One thing I would recommend is Lower Control Arm Relocation Brackets ( Best bang for the buck). What that does is allow you to move the lowers to three different positions. And allows you to have a better fine tune on the rear. We have experienced that using the lowest holes gives you the best traction performance. below is a link to show you what I am explaining. If you have any other questions feel free to ask I will be more than glad to help.
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
is there anyone on here that has actual proven 60's with the change of ONLY lcas...from say a BUSHING type lca to a TEFLON(spherical) rod end
Perhaps this is the answer the answer your looking for.

If you are trying to make a decision between a poly/poly lower control arm and a rod ended control arm based on 60' difference there is no difference in 60' until you have probably 1000 rwhp or more between the 2 control arms.

So if you already have tubular lower control arms going to the rod end version is not going to better your 60'.

Hope this helps answer your question...
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yeah the poly bushings are very stiff

if you like turning though(i see you have a phb) then a rod ended lca would be a good choice for you.
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
well as of right now just the panhard bard and lcas but the bushing type...
Like mentioned I feel the poly/poly set-up would be best for most applications with street use. If the vehicle see's some autocross or road race I would recommend you look into a rod end on at least one end. I will be glad to discuss that if needed.

Let me know and we will be glad to assist you. Thanks!

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Originally Posted by UMI Sales
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It sounds like the rear is unloading to fast might be a spring or shock situation but another thing what I would recommend is try the second hole on the relocation bracket and doing that will allow the car not to bite so hard. If you have any other question feel free to ask and I will be glad to help, And once again thanks for choosing UMI Performance
Thanks
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Thanks Brad,

I'll take all the help i can get. i have had the LCA's on the lower hole, since then i have changed springs and shocks, i was on old *** blown cheapo shocks and eibach prokit springs, now im on eibach drag launch springs with about 20 psi in the bag, summit 3 way drag shocks set to Firm (50/50) in the rear, and QA1-R series set all the way soft in the front, I'm only bringing it up to about 1800 for the launch and the weight seems to transfer to the rear nice but it still spins a bit off the line, launches straight now but still spins a but and i cant seem to cut better than a 1.8 60' and definatly cant leave on the bottle. My UMI adjustable TA is waiting in my living room waiting for me to get home from work tomorrow, but unfortunatly i dont think i'll have time to install it before my race tomorrow night. I'm wondering if the 255/60/15 ET Street Radials are not enough tire for the 4.10's. I think that they should be, i know there's faster people than me runnin em. Any ideas on what i should try to hook better and get this darn 60' down?
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Originally Posted by BMR Tech
Perhaps this is the answer the answer your looking for.

If you are trying to make a decision between a poly/poly lower control arm and a rod ended control arm based on 60' difference there is no difference in 60' until you have probably 1000 rwhp or more between the 2 control arms.

So if you already have tubular lower control arms going to the rod end version is not going to better your 60'.

Hope this helps answer your question...

yes thats the answer im looking for and the relocation brackets sounds like exactly what i need now thanks
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will these (relocation brackets) be helpful on street tires on just with drag radials/slicks?
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YES on all tires
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Originally Posted by robsquikz28
YES on all tires
What about the aftermarket relocation arms? Are they helpful as well? (on all tires)
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yeah they are
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I should probably look into some, my 60' is a mess and I spin through most of the 60' area.
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what kind of tires do you have?
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Originally Posted by therealcreeper
what kind of tires do you have?
245/45/16s

As to the certain type, I'm not sure, something cheap.

Looking into getting some drag radials as they would be much more conducive to traction than cheap street tires.


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