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Old 07-29-2010, 10:09 AM
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Question Stable at high speeds

I was wondering if some of the experts can chime in and tell me whats needed to keep the car stable at high speeds? Thanks guys.
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No one knows?
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I'll take a wild guess and say downforce.

Downforce is needed to keep these cars stable at high speeds.
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more caster and a tiny bit of toe out in the rear.
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Better shocks? Maybe springs too if your going really fast and turning a lot?

Where/how exactly are you feeling this unstable feeling?
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
I'll take a wild guess and say downforce.

Downforce is needed to keep these cars stable at high speeds.
I pretty much figured that but what suspension parts can be added to achieve that?

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson
more caster and a tiny bit of toe out in the rear.
Setup like a drag car?
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
Better shocks? Maybe springs too if your going really fast and turning a lot?

Where/how exactly are you feeling this unstable feeling?
I currently have strano springs, koni shocks, umi stb, and umi phb. I plan on getting some sfc's soon. I started feeling it at about 145, and yes it was on a private road.
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Is the assumption perfect pavement, or bumpy and rough, or both?

What, specifically feels unstable?


I have read the driveshaft needs an upgrade at really high speeds, like a carbon fiber one:
http://www.acpt.com/article4.html


Originally Posted by Detoxx03
I was wondering if some of the experts can chime in and tell me whats needed to keep the car stable at high speeds? Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
I currently have ... stb ...
And that didn't solve your stability problems, increase fuel economy and get you a season pass to the Bunny Ranch?
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
Is the assumption perfect pavement, or bumpy and rough, or both?

What, specifically feels unstable?


I have read the driveshaft needs an upgrade at really high speeds, like a carbon fiber one:
http://www.acpt.com/article4.html
Thanks for the link. The car was wobbling side to side.

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And that didn't solve your stability problems, increase fuel economy and get you a season pass to the Bunny Ranch?
Plan on contributing anything useful?
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Mine is stable all the way to about 160 mph.. I had the car on the autobahn while I was stationed in Germany. I have all my suspension done minus the k-member, upper and lower control arms.. and i had 275's all the way around
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03
Plan on contributing anything useful?
Not really.

Too much effort asking the same old questions about current set-up, speeds you are encountering instability, what is the car actually doing and at what speed ...

Asking generic questions like "How do I go faster?" without any supporting data doesn't get any where.

But with an STB, you can at least leap tall buildings in a single bound ...
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How do you set rear toe with a solid axle rear?
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Originally Posted by 01 ss vert
How do you set rear toe with a solid axle rear?
A torch and a big f***ing pry bar?
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Originally Posted by meine96ws6
Mine is stable all the way to about 160 mph.. I had the car on the autobahn while I was stationed in Germany. I have all my suspension done minus the k-member, upper and lower control arms.. and i had 275's all the way around
Thanks

Originally Posted by mitchntx
Not really.

Too much effort asking the same old questions about current set-up, speeds you are encountering instability, what is the car actually doing and at what speed ...

Asking generic questions like "How do I go faster?" without any supporting data doesn't get any where.

But with an STB, you can at least leap tall buildings in a single bound ...
If thats the case how about you exit the thread and not come back unless you wanna be of assistance. I don't get why people only come to threads where serious questions are being asked and all they do is wanna play around and start ****.

Thanks to everyone that has contributed info I can actually use to fix/diagnose the issue.
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I would assume some welded SFCs should help. Have you had your alignment checked, and ensured everything is snugged up/torqued right?

Have you considered a Watts Link? Strano mentions that running it allowed him to take a lot of previously necessary wheel spacer out too. That's how much lateral movement there is from the arc of a PHB. I am not certain how much this applies (if at all) in just straight lines, however. Maybe Strano can chime in too.


Originally Posted by Detoxx03
Thanks for the link. The car was wobbling side to side.
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Originally Posted by libertyforall1776
I would assume some welded SFCs should help. Have you had your alignment checked, and ensured everything is snugged up/torqued right?

Have you considered a Watts Link? Strano mentions that running it allowed him to take a lot of previously necessary wheel spacer out too. That's how much lateral movement there is from the arc of a PHB. I am not certain how much this applies (if at all) in just straight lines, however. Maybe Strano can chime in too.
My car isn't my dd so next time i'm off i'm gonna have the alignment checked and make sure everything is tight. I have considered a Watts Link. I PM'd Sam just waiting on his reply.
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Originally Posted by Detoxx03

If thats the case how about you exit the thread and not come back unless you wanna be of assistance. I don't get why people only come to threads where serious questions are being asked and all they do is wanna play around and start ****.
Hey, I suggested you get an STB ... I heard it's a suitable substitute for dialysis.
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I'd start my checking the alignment and running a bit of toe-in on the front to make it track better than zero or toe-out.

But the aero on the car sucks. Anything you can do keep air out from under it, like a deep chin spoiler, etc helps. But you have to remember the cooling air all comes from underneath too, block it off and your car overheats....

I imagine what you are feeling is a sort of buffeting? That's air.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
I'd start my checking the alignment and running a bit of toe-in on the front to make it track better than zero or toe-out.

But the aero on the car sucks. Anything you can do keep air out from under it, like a deep chin spoiler, etc helps. But you have to remember the cooling air all comes from underneath too, block it off and your car overheats....

I imagine what you are feeling is a sort of buffeting? That's air.
Thanks Sam


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