Shocks for a lowered car
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Shocks for a lowered car
I bought my WS6 with a Eibach Pro-kit on it, with KYB AGX front shocks. But the rears are decarbons, which i think are the stockers?
Anyways i defiently need some new rear shocks it likes to bottom out on a really big bump, but its even worse when i got one or more ppl in the car. I also have 2 12" subs in the back too. I know ive heard that the pro-kit likes to sag in the rear, and they are not the best set up but the stance is awesome and she handles great just need some new rear shocks i think so its a little better ride.
Should i just buy the AGX's for the rear or should i get something else?
thanks!
Anyways i defiently need some new rear shocks it likes to bottom out on a really big bump, but its even worse when i got one or more ppl in the car. I also have 2 12" subs in the back too. I know ive heard that the pro-kit likes to sag in the rear, and they are not the best set up but the stance is awesome and she handles great just need some new rear shocks i think so its a little better ride.
Should i just buy the AGX's for the rear or should i get something else?
thanks!
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Im actually in the same position. I got the pro-kit and im looking for rear shocks. I think im either gonna settle for kyb gas-a-just or save up alittle more for bilstien. If i were you i would get the agx's all around so you can use the adjustability to its full potential. And yes decarbons are stock and anything is better than them.
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We've used a couple sets of AGX's with good success. They aren't Koni's but aren't replacement specials either. I consider them somewhere in the high/middle.
The nice thing about adjustables is you can crank them up when loading the fam and beach gear then drop back to normal when cruising.
Koni's tend to feel the nicest (sporty yet comfortable) then maybe Bilsteins then AGX's. Still a pretty good shock.
Also, KYB Gas-a-just's aren't so bad if you're looking for a replacement which is a little better than usual.
My opinion, your results may vary.
ramey
The nice thing about adjustables is you can crank them up when loading the fam and beach gear then drop back to normal when cruising.
Koni's tend to feel the nicest (sporty yet comfortable) then maybe Bilsteins then AGX's. Still a pretty good shock.
Also, KYB Gas-a-just's aren't so bad if you're looking for a replacement which is a little better than usual.
My opinion, your results may vary.
ramey
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thanks for the help guys, i think ill just get agx's to match. Ill try cranking them up a little more in the back maybe and see how that goes.
Ive heard good things about QA1's, but are they mainly for strip cars? just asking because i DD the car, with a hopefully a few passes this summer.
Ive heard good things about QA1's, but are they mainly for strip cars? just asking because i DD the car, with a hopefully a few passes this summer.
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QA1's are a pretty good all purpose shock, not necessarily only for strip. Bilsteins and Koni's (especially Koni's) are known for their plush feel while still delivering great performance. QA1's are more known for their great performance while delivering a less polished ride in cruising situations. A single adjustable set on 3 is pretty comfy while a setting of 18 will feel like the suspension is solid. It's this ability to contract and expand the damping curve which makes them good performers in many situations.
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Y'all can take this for what it's worth.
I have a 2001 'Chicken that was in bad need of a suspension tune up. I couldn't get the thing to turn without scaring the heck out of someone. Keep in mind, this is a street driven car only and will probably never see a track...twisties or drag strip. I want a car that drives comfortably on the street, yet will turn a "spirited" corner if you get my drift. I installed all new control arm bushings front and rear...sway bar bushings and end links, ball joints, tie rods, everything. I was looking for a decent shock that would do what I wanted without breaking the bank. I finally decided to go with KYB Gas-a-Just shocks because they are a high pressure mono tube that should do what I want. I couldn't be happier. They suited my application just fine. It's like driving a new car (suspension rebuild is huge part of that) and the shocks are just the icing on the cake.
So now...I wouldn't mind lowering it a tad. I contacted one of the very well thought of suppliers here on this site. His comment was...'those shocks are absolute junk and I can't recommend them with my lowering springs. Bilsteins are the absolute minimum". Well, that makes no sense to me at all. So I'm going to purchase springs that don't require an exotic high dollar shock to control. They are out there. I would do this differently if it were a race car, but for my use, I just don't need all the exotic parts.
I have a 2001 'Chicken that was in bad need of a suspension tune up. I couldn't get the thing to turn without scaring the heck out of someone. Keep in mind, this is a street driven car only and will probably never see a track...twisties or drag strip. I want a car that drives comfortably on the street, yet will turn a "spirited" corner if you get my drift. I installed all new control arm bushings front and rear...sway bar bushings and end links, ball joints, tie rods, everything. I was looking for a decent shock that would do what I wanted without breaking the bank. I finally decided to go with KYB Gas-a-Just shocks because they are a high pressure mono tube that should do what I want. I couldn't be happier. They suited my application just fine. It's like driving a new car (suspension rebuild is huge part of that) and the shocks are just the icing on the cake.
So now...I wouldn't mind lowering it a tad. I contacted one of the very well thought of suppliers here on this site. His comment was...'those shocks are absolute junk and I can't recommend them with my lowering springs. Bilsteins are the absolute minimum". Well, that makes no sense to me at all. So I'm going to purchase springs that don't require an exotic high dollar shock to control. They are out there. I would do this differently if it were a race car, but for my use, I just don't need all the exotic parts.
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So now...I wouldn't mind lowering it a tad. I contacted one of the very well thought of suppliers here on this site. His comment was...'those shocks are absolute junk and I can't recommend them with my lowering springs. Bilsteins are the absolute minimum". Well, that makes no sense to me at all. So I'm going to purchase springs that don't require an exotic high dollar shock to control. They are out there. I would do this differently if it were a race car, but for my use, I just don't need all the exotic parts.
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Y'all can take this for what it's worth.
I have a 2001 'Chicken that was in bad need of a suspension tune up. I couldn't get the thing to turn without scaring the heck out of someone. Keep in mind, this is a street driven car only and will probably never see a track...twisties or drag strip. I want a car that drives comfortably on the street, yet will turn a "spirited" corner if you get my drift. I installed all new control arm bushings front and rear...sway bar bushings and end links, ball joints, tie rods, everything. I was looking for a decent shock that would do what I wanted without breaking the bank. I finally decided to go with KYB Gas-a-Just shocks because they are a high pressure mono tube that should do what I want. I couldn't be happier. They suited my application just fine. It's like driving a new car (suspension rebuild is huge part of that) and the shocks are just the icing on the cake.
So now...I wouldn't mind lowering it a tad. I contacted one of the very well thought of suppliers here on this site. His comment was...'those shocks are absolute junk and I can't recommend them with my lowering springs. Bilsteins are the absolute minimum". Well, that makes no sense to me at all. So I'm going to purchase springs that don't require an exotic high dollar shock to control. They are out there. I would do this differently if it were a race car, but for my use, I just don't need all the exotic parts.
I have a 2001 'Chicken that was in bad need of a suspension tune up. I couldn't get the thing to turn without scaring the heck out of someone. Keep in mind, this is a street driven car only and will probably never see a track...twisties or drag strip. I want a car that drives comfortably on the street, yet will turn a "spirited" corner if you get my drift. I installed all new control arm bushings front and rear...sway bar bushings and end links, ball joints, tie rods, everything. I was looking for a decent shock that would do what I wanted without breaking the bank. I finally decided to go with KYB Gas-a-Just shocks because they are a high pressure mono tube that should do what I want. I couldn't be happier. They suited my application just fine. It's like driving a new car (suspension rebuild is huge part of that) and the shocks are just the icing on the cake.
So now...I wouldn't mind lowering it a tad. I contacted one of the very well thought of suppliers here on this site. His comment was...'those shocks are absolute junk and I can't recommend them with my lowering springs. Bilsteins are the absolute minimum". Well, that makes no sense to me at all. So I'm going to purchase springs that don't require an exotic high dollar shock to control. They are out there. I would do this differently if it were a race car, but for my use, I just don't need all the exotic parts.
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You won't find a lowering spring that those shocks are "ideal" for because they are made to deal with our soft, tall stock springs. Can you run a lowering spring? ofcourse, but it won't be nearly as comfortable, composed or stable as if you had a better shock. Would you want to run a high lift cam on stock valve springs?
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For what its worth i bought the AGX's. Im happy with them, they defientaly stiffened up the rear, and i feel very stable unlike with the stockers. It rebounds quick so it doesnt bottom out, yet at least. The car is great around corners, barely any body roll. Not the best set-up for some as ive heard but it suits my needs.
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A lowering spring constitutes less travel. Furthermore, since the lowered spring has to be stiffer (higher rate), it may require a different valved shock to keep things equal. Therefore, I can see where these KYB's may present a slightly stiffer ride.
But its much more than a "slightly stiffer ride" (likely significantly more jarring on bumps) - but also at speed the car will be more floaty and loose and just get worse with time.
But for the supplier to arbitrarily call them 'junk' was just wrong. They aren't.