Blaze_01

Hello.
I am browsing internet at the moment looking for a solution.

I wounder if original shocks and aftermarket shocks have the same lenght?

I bought Koni Yellow Sport 2 years back, and it feels like my car dropped.
i cant figure out.

The ride quality is very bad, the car is way to stiff, and when i tried having the koni on soft, it was worse.
The car sometimes hit the ground and really bad places, and the car was too soft when cornering.
so i decided to adjust them to get more stiff. Horribly stiff..

And i only have lowered the car 35mm.
It still feels too low.

So i decided to get new shocks. i didnt like the konis at all.

The roads around here is really bad, and when im unlucky enough to hit a pothole,
it feels like the car got blown up with dynamite....
a really really terrible feeling.. I hit a horrible pothole yesterday and i punctured my tire
and the cars feel horrible to drive now, knocking, turning doesnt feel precise, and it feels so bad..
ive been frustrated about this setup all the time and i wanna throw the shocks far away.
i need a better setup, that is not too low, but i still want a sporty feel but not too stiff.

I really like the stiffness with the H&R springs, and preffer using them..
i just cant figure out why the car dropped with the konis.

i was thinking about Bilstein, Kyb, or monroe.

Anyone have some information about how these shocks works compared to koni?
Also, are the aftermarket shocks shorter?


when i had the original shocks, using the H&R 35mm lowering kit, the car was just awesome to drive.
And it wasnt that low.

I was thinking about Kyb ExcelG but im afraid they will be too soft.
i dont know.

experts please.

leadfoot4

iTrader: (1)

I find it hard to believe that you're having trouble with Konis. I have them on my car now, after having the OE shocks and Eibach springs, then the Eibach springs with SLP Bilstein shocks, and currently Koni shocks and Strano springs. My car rides quite well with this set up.

Did you buy the Konis new? How many miles are on them? They do have a warranty to the original purchaser. Is there any chance you didn't get the upper mounts installed correctly in the front?

Blaze_01

I got the konis new.
And one of the shocks broke with the first ride, it was the ''adjuster'' thingy inside that broke. Then i got a new one on warranty.

been using them for 1.5 years.

The car is too low, too stiff and it doesnt feel right.
They are okay if i drive on a very good road.
But around here, they are really bad.

Trying to explain, english is not my first language but,
When i drive over a bump, the shocks compress, and then they use a little too long to decompress, so if there two bumps after each other, i will crash into the secound one if i forget to drive really really slow.

I figured it could be because they are on the stiffest, but when i adjusted them, they was worse, they was too easily compressed.

i couldnt find a perfect setting, and the car just feels too low.

i had the original shocks few years ago, and they worked perfectly with the same springs.

i cant figure out why the car dropped even more with the konis.

i dont think they are worn, just something arent right.
And i dont want to experiment more with them.
I am thinking about getting something with original quality using loweringsprings, if its true that the aftermarket shocks are shorter or something.
i like the 35mm drop.. but right now it looks like 45mm in the front.

Edit:
The rear shocks are adjusted to the stiffest and feel very good.
Just perfect rear!!
Its the front which bothers me, its much lower than the back.

Furious1

iTrader: (1)

Are you sure it isn't the springs that you are using?

Blaze_01

Hey.
i dont think so honestly.
With horrible ride, i mean that, it feels like the shocks are just a iron rod the car is standing on.
it is so hard. Everytime i drive over a bump or on bad road cant feel the shocks doing their job.
They dont absorb shocks at all.

And i tried having it on soft a while ago, but the shocks then was acting very differently.
The car was bad in cornering, the car was rolling heavy to the side.

I havent tried medium adjust, but have tried med soft, and med hard too.
I am so tired of taking off the shocks to adjust. I cant find the perfect settings.


But my big question is, if aftermarket shocks and original shocks have different lenght?

And if Kyb, monroe, bilstein, feels a little more confy, but also very sporty. and if they are longer than the konis.

No offence, konis are great on a perfect road i guess.
But that is something i never will experience here.

SparkyJJO

iTrader: (11)

Front konis have two perch locations on the front. If you put them on the lower perch it would drop the front end a tad.

I've never heard of those springs. What are the spring rates?

RedHotG8

iTrader: (1)

The springs determine the ride height not the shocks. If you think the car is too low you need different springs not shocks.

JD_AMG

Ok before any further confusion, what do you drive? A 4th gen fbody?
If so, then yes, all the name brand shocks *should be* the same length roughly.

Did you install anything else at the same time? Were these double adjustable or single adjustable konis?

Koni SA's have a lower perch you can mount the front springs on, this perch is not recommend for lowering springs.

This sounds like too much rebound.
And this sounds like you adjusted the compression setting (only available on the double adjustables).
So do you have single or double adjustable? Rebound adjustment should be near the top of the shock while compression adjustment should be near the bottom.


These two quotes together don't make sense. You are happy with the rear, and those are the only ones you have to take off to adjust. The front you can adjust on the car, and thats the ones you are having trouble with. Are you taking those off everytime to adjust???

Blaze_01

Hmm, i had 35mm lowering when i bought the car, then i replaced shocks, and bought a new set of springs. it said, 35mm where i bought it, maybe i have gotten the wrong ones without knowing.
I could take them of a measure.

Another thing i just found out, is that the worn shock i still got here, i just inspected that one, and found out i could easily compress 1-2 inches before i got some resistance.
That shock also make a squeezing metallic sound when it starts compressing.
When i shake it, theres something loose inside.

The shocks i got on the car could be worn without me knowing.
i gonna dismantle and do a check on them this week.

If they are broken, im thinking of getting different shocks.

JD_AMG

Did you buy the same springs over again? What are they? H&R again?
You also never answered what car you have? Are the Konis double or single adjustable?