More issues with BMR Torque Arm Bracket (Build Quality)
11-11-2007, 07:53 PM
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More issues with BMR Torque Arm Bracket (Build Quality) Today, I had a tad of free time so I took advantage of it so I wanted to install my BMR Torque Arm Relocation Bracket.
Before I took out my stock piece, I measured from the top sheet metal to about where the center of the stock TA bushing was. On my car it was 5 1/4".
I removed the stock tranny cross member, remove the stock TA mount on the tranny, I went to put the new BMR piece in place and it wouldn't go in, here I had the adjustable bushing mount installed on the wrong side. oops..
I reversed it, went to install it, I was like what the hell, the TA mount/bushing hole won't clear my Y-pipe!
I measured from the sheet metal above, down, and it's almost a 2" difference. I was told 3rd hole from the bottom, I had to go to the very top hole and it's within a 1/8", much better. 
I moved it up and go to install the whole tranny TA bracket/cross member. I get the bolts started and had a little trouble with one on the drivers side. I got the other 3 in and tried to get the 4th bolt in. No go, the bracket won't line up to the body of my car no matter what you do or however loose the other 3 are.
I believe the bracket was built/welded wrong as you can see in my pics. There is almost a 1/4" gap where the bracket should sit flush with the underside of my car.
My car is straight as can be, I ordered the car new, never been dinged, and only has 14,xxx miles on it, so I know for a fact my car is not the problem.
Another minor issue, when I removed the the stock TA mount/bushing, one of the bolts came out by itself and the other is intergrated into the mount. You need both bolts to put back in to hold the exhaust bracket for the Y-pipe. You would have thought that BMR would have included a extra bolt for this $254.00 TA Relocation Bracket.
Check out the pics and tell me your thoughts, I'm going to call BMR tomorrow to see what they say about this and about my other issue of the BMR TA mounting to my 9".
Bill
Before I took out my stock piece, I measured from the top sheet metal to about where the center of the stock TA bushing was. On my car it was 5 1/4".
I removed the stock tranny cross member, remove the stock TA mount on the tranny, I went to put the new BMR piece in place and it wouldn't go in, here I had the adjustable bushing mount installed on the wrong side. oops..
I reversed it, went to install it, I was like what the hell, the TA mount/bushing hole won't clear my Y-pipe!
I measured from the sheet metal above, down, and it's almost a 2" difference. I was told 3rd hole from the bottom, I had to go to the very top hole and it's within a 1/8", much better. I moved it up and go to install the whole tranny TA bracket/cross member. I get the bolts started and had a little trouble with one on the drivers side. I got the other 3 in and tried to get the 4th bolt in. No go, the bracket won't line up to the body of my car no matter what you do or however loose the other 3 are.
I believe the bracket was built/welded wrong as you can see in my pics. There is almost a 1/4" gap where the bracket should sit flush with the underside of my car.
My car is straight as can be, I ordered the car new, never been dinged, and only has 14,xxx miles on it, so I know for a fact my car is not the problem.
Another minor issue, when I removed the the stock TA mount/bushing, one of the bolts came out by itself and the other is intergrated into the mount. You need both bolts to put back in to hold the exhaust bracket for the Y-pipe. You would have thought that BMR would have included a extra bolt for this $254.00 TA Relocation Bracket.
Check out the pics and tell me your thoughts, I'm going to call BMR tomorrow to see what they say about this and about my other issue of the BMR TA mounting to my 9".
Bill
11-11-2007, 08:48 PM
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it looks like in the 4th pic if you slide it back the hole would line ? the other bolt hole looks to be slotted for adjustment. you might have to enlarge the hole too on your ,but yes it suck the part is brand new and you shouldn't have to modify it .but i would see what bmr say's!
11-11-2007, 09:07 PM
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It won't slide because the bolt from the tranny mount. Opening the hole is one thing, but it still won't fit flush and I shouldn't have rig it to make it work.
There is a gap, it seems that when the piece was welded on, it got cocked in the the jig.
There is a gap, it seems that when the piece was welded on, it got cocked in the the jig.
11-12-2007, 12:00 AM
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The hole you left for last is the only one that's not slotted, judging by this and your other thread. Maybe if you put a bolt in the non-slotted hole first you will be able to align the rest of the slotted holes after. Just an idea.
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11-12-2007, 01:55 AM
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I have the same TA relocation crossmember but for a TH400 install.
Mine fit perfectly. Of course I don't have a Ypipe and never will again.
Call Lee and nicely describe your issues, I am sure he will take care of it. I have received excellent customer service from BMR which is why alot of thier parts are under my car.
Mine fit perfectly. Of course I don't have a Ypipe and never will again.
Call Lee and nicely describe your issues, I am sure he will take care of it. I have received excellent customer service from BMR which is why alot of thier parts are under my car.
11-12-2007, 09:16 AM
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I just got off the phone with Lee and what a great guy he is. I told him about this post, he checked out the pics and after talking, he agreed to switch it out for a new one!
He also helped me out on my adj TA issue with my 9".
So far, great customer service. I also have other BMR parts on my car as well:
- Adj Panhard
- STB
- LCA
Thanks Lee, very glad I called you, your a great guy!
He also helped me out on my adj TA issue with my 9".
So far, great customer service. I also have other BMR parts on my car as well:
- Adj Panhard
- STB
- LCA
Thanks Lee, very glad I called you, your a great guy!
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11-12-2007, 07:08 PM
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Billiumss let us know how the car feels after the bracket is installed. I'm thinking of getting one and was wondering if u can feel the difference driving around.
11-14-2007, 08:53 AM
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I had a couple slight issues with mine also. I just opened the holes a touch. One thing I do not understand is they say that the 3rd hole up from the bottom is the neutral or stock T/A location. On my car though, the TOP holes are still BELOW the stock T/A mount location. How can that be right?? the bottom of the torque arm bracket sits lower than any other part of my car. I can't use the bottom 2 locations anyway because the torque arm rests on my dual exhaust in the 3rd hole.
Bummer.
Bummer.
11-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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I had a couple slight issues with mine also. I just opened the holes a touch. One thing I do not understand is they say that the 3rd hole up from the bottom is the neutral or stock T/A location. On my car though, the TOP holes are still BELOW the stock T/A mount location. How can that be right?? the bottom of the torque arm bracket sits lower than any other part of my car. I can't use the bottom 2 locations anyway because the torque arm rests on my dual exhaust in the 3rd hole.
Bummer.
Bummer.
On the automatic crossmember the 3rd hole from the bottom is the stock location do to the transmission crosmember is higher in the car. For the standard shift transmission the crossmember is lower so the stock location is the top hole in the conversion crossmember. We biased the crossmember for the 6-speeds based on our experience with needing more lower adjustments to lower the instant center in the car. Sorry about the confusion.Lee Spicher
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11-14-2007, 11:25 AM
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Well alrighty then!
Thanks for the clear up.
Let me ask you this though: with everything installed; the top most torque arm position is still below the tailshaft of the transmission. Stock the torque arm position is right next to the tailshaft. I figured the mounting bracket would still be in the same position as stock, just with adjustments.
Edumacate me!!!!
Thanks for the clear up.
Let me ask you this though: with everything installed; the top most torque arm position is still below the tailshaft of the transmission. Stock the torque arm position is right next to the tailshaft. I figured the mounting bracket would still be in the same position as stock, just with adjustments.
Edumacate me!!!!
11-16-2007, 02:22 PM
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Do you have a stock rubber transmission mount on the car or a poly one?
Lee Spicher
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